Martin Ball’s latest podcast

[Dazgwny]

So I’ve been listening to his latest podcast, chapter 17 from his book. It’s confused me. A lot of things I agree with. But without using the term solipsism , his claims are very solipsistic, yet he still gives credit to there being other ego’s. As much as he claims he knows everything is all him, all psychedelic projections, all non psychedelic experiences, it seems to me he still has this ‘other’ notion of ego’s. There still seems to be a divide, even if subtle. He says I’ve learned to recognise both my individual ‘and’ my universal perspectives in reality. I don’t know, but it’s like he’s saying God is shaped taking all perspectives at one time. Where as I think Leo’s teachings are claiming that there is only this one perspective, and the idea of other one’s going on are all a dream, all imaginary. My own findings so far aline more with what I think Leo is teaching (maybe I have Leo’s teachings confused myself) but when I awake on psychedelics, there really is no other perspective other than that of my own, I’ve dreamt the lot, even Leo’s and ball’s perspective, even though I’m not conscious of that now. So what’s going on here? Is ball missing something, or am I?

[Dazgwny]

Or both? ?

[Thought Art]

Tricky divine mystery. One God playing many forms. can't really believe an "Other" to verify. 

Edited January 19, 2023 by Thought Art

[Dazgwny]

Good answer. Hence my confusion. Would never believe anyway. Just quizzing to get ‘other’ opinions ?. Shoot myself in the foot there haven’t I haha. Bit of a strange looped question. But yea I’m still confused haha ??

[Thought Art]

@Dazgwny Yeah, It's confusing. I guess, when you know you know. 

 

[tuku747]

It is both and neither. That's the beauty of It. You can release yourself from either narrative; because they are only narratives. Or you can come up with a completely new narrative if You want to. You Are God.

Edited January 20, 2023 by tuku747

[WelcometoReality]

11 hours ago, Dazgwny said:

Good answer. Hence my confusion. Would never believe anyway. Just quizzing to get ‘other’ opinions ?. Shoot myself in the foot there haven’t I haha. Bit of a strange looped question. But yea I’m still confused haha ??

Yeah, the mind gets confused when it's trying to make sense of it all. ?

Not much to do except embracing the confusion and the paradox imo. ?