What is the cost to manipulation and controlling people?

[Manusia]

@Leo Gura

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Conservatives like structure and order, but no one likes to be controlled.

They believe in limited government intervention and that people should be able to make their own choices as long as it doesn't harm others.

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Manusia said:

@Leo Gura

They believe in limited government intervention and that people should be able to make their own choices as long as it doesn't harm others.

No

[vishnusavestheday]

The cost of manipulation is the sacrifice of loyalty

[Ulax]

45 minutes ago, Manusia said:

@Leo Gura

They believe in limited government intervention and that people should be able to make their own choices as long as it doesn't harm others.

@Manusia What about LGBTQ folk?

[Manusia]

@Ulax It's not fair to make a blanket statement about conservatives or any group of people when it comes to the rights of LGBT individuals.

[Ulax]

@Manusia why do you think it isn't fair?

[Jordan]

If you do things against your conscience such as manipulating people and lying, you will feel uncomfortable emotions and you will be believing your own lies so that you can pull them off more convincingly. It will be very difficult to know what is true and what choices to make when you are constantly lying and conceptualizing ways to maintain control. Do you know anyone that manipulates people much more often than average people to get their way? Do you see any cost in living in this way? Your emotions will be all over the place and you will be stressed out all the time. I avoid those people like the plague.

Of course there are times when manipulation is worth the cost. Just be aware that it is going to block you from knowing what is true and makes you feel bad emotionally. 

[Manusia]

@Ulax people's views on this issue can vary widely within any political ideology or group. People have different life experiences, beliefs, and values that shape their views of LGBT rights. 

[Ulax]

@Manusia You aware of spiral dynamics?

[Manusia]

@Ulax you win then.

[Ulax]

@Manusia Not trying to win bro, just interrogating your beliefs