Does Modafinil Affect Your Sleep?

[SQAAD]

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The normal half-life of modafinil in humans is between 12 to 15 hours [4]. Modafinil consists of R-enantiomer and S-enantiomer as a racemic compound, and the waking effect of R-enantiomer has a longer duration.

Hello everyone. I want to try 100mg of modafinil tomorrow morning. But i don't want it to  negatively affect my sleep.

What's your experience with taking modafinil and sleeping at night?

I read that modafinil has a long half-life and this is why i am concerned.

Edited January 18, 2023 by SQAAD

[Leo Gura]

Yes, you will not be able to sleep on it. 

It is a drug designed to prevent narcoleptics from falling asleep.

You must take it early in the day.

Edited January 18, 2023 by Leo Gura

[SQAAD]

@Leo Gura

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You must take it early in the day.

If i take it early in the day, will it affect at all my sleep at night??

I am asking because of the long half life..

[Grateful Dead]

@SQAAD I can take it at 5am and still not sleep all night.

[Leo Gura]

33 minutes ago, SQAAD said:

@Leo Gura

If i take it early in the day, will it affect at all my sleep at night??

I am asking because of the long half life..

It shouldn't.

Depends on how much you take. Reduce your dose by half or down to a quarter.

[Arthogaan]

When I started taking it even 100mg at 6 am made it hard to fall asleep at 11pm.

But later it got easier.

[Cireeric]

For me personally I noticed that even if I take half of it (100mg) I will have difficulties falling asleep and get a headache in the evening, so my ability to have a clear mind is reduced the next day. Plus I get more robotic, less social and more anxiety. With a quarter of it (50mg) Im more awake throughout the day, have more time where I can concentrate to study and can fall asleep, without having a crash next day.

[SQAAD]

@acidgoofy

19 hours ago, acidgoofy said:

@SQAAD I can take it at 5am and still not sleep all night.

 

How many miligrams you take though ??

 

[SQAAD]

@Leo Gura

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It shouldn't.

Depends on how much you take. Reduce your dose by half or down to a quarter.

How many mgs do you use??

And .. do you still recommend this substance??

I just wanna try it for the experience. I took 100mg early in the morning. And i like the effect. Makes me a little bit more aware/conscious i would say. Also gave me a smooth light buzz which i like.

Edited January 19, 2023 by SQAAD

[SQAAD]

@Cireeric

15 hours ago, Cireeric said:

For me personally I noticed that even if I take half of it (100mg) I will have difficulties falling asleep and get a headache in the evening, so my ability to have a clear mind is reduced the next day. Plus I get more robotic, less social and more anxiety. With a quarter of it (50mg) Im more awake throughout the day, have more time where I can concentrate to study and can fall asleep, without having a crash next day.

Yeah.. it seems its about finding the right dose.

Do you recommend this substance? I would like to know your opinion. Because i have very little experience with this substance and i wanna run an experiment with it.

Edited January 19, 2023 by SQAAD

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, SQAAD said:

@Leo Gura

How many mgs do you use??

Hard to recall now. I rarely use it. I took 1/4th of a 200mg pill.

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And .. do you still recommend this substance??

I don't use it much. But it may be helpful to some.

Don't use it every day. Or you will develop tolerance. Twice a week would be ideal. Save it for when you are ready to get a lot of work done.

Edited January 19, 2023 by Leo Gura

[SQAAD]

@Arthogaan

17 hours ago, Arthogaan said:

When I started taking it even 100mg at 6 am made it hard to fall asleep at 11pm.

But later it got easier.

Do you recommend this substance? What's your take on it? 

[Arthogaan]

Yup, I recommend it. But I would not exceed a maximum of 3-4 times a week.

It helps me to get shit done, especially the one that I do not find purposeful. I like to stack up certain mind boring tasks (as learning for an exam from the subcject I do not find interesting) in one day, and just spend the whole day on it. 

It cerainly helped me quit coffee. I prefer this than coffee. I feel less withdrawal symptoms and it is more intentional - I won't take modafinil just to chat with friends.

I don't notice any negative side effects so far other than you just have to watch your body to get enough sleep, and if you take it like 3 days in a row plan your 4th and 5th day so that you can catch up on sleep.

[SQAAD]

@Arthogaan

42 minutes ago, Arthogaan said:

Yup, I recommend it. But I would not exceed a maximum of 3-4 times a week.

It helps me to get shit done, especially the one that I do not find purposeful. I like to stack up certain mind boring tasks (as learning for an exam from the subcject I do not find interesting) in one day, and just spend the whole day on it. 

It cerainly helped me quit coffee. I prefer this than coffee. I feel less withdrawal symptoms and it is more intentional - I won't take modafinil just to chat with friends.

I don't notice any negative side effects so far other than you just have to watch your body to get enough sleep, and if you take it like 3 days in a row plan your 4th and 5th day so that you can catch up on sleep.

Hmm.. Interesting.. So what is the dose currently that works best for you??

[Arthogaan]

100mg  - but I always try to take it earlier than 7am.

[Cireeric]

4 hours ago, SQAAD said:

Do you recommend this substance? I would like to know your opinion. Because i have very little experience with this substance and i wanna run an experiment with it.

When I first tried Modafinil I really loved it, because I was so hyperfocussed for the whole day and at evenig I would got in so much information in the day. But nowadays I noticed the downsides more strongly too. I feel like on 100mg I get a bit robotic like I said, a bit less creative and more down the next day. I still enjoy it once or twice a week in a dose of 50mg now, the effects are not that strong in this way but I have more mental energy throughout the day to learn and less fatique, I can just get  more done in a day with a quarter of modafinil.

What is really amazing about it is that I can increase my motivation for learning stuff, getting really hyped about the topics I explore. I think if you use that dopamine spike in the right way you can increase your motivation and excitement for the right stuff. But be careful I also noticed that it increases the addiction pathways, making addictive behavior more pleasure(e.g. videogames, porn or whatever) , so if you have little addictions and engage with them on modafinil it can increase them too. Also I think overall its not the most wholistic substance for your brain chemistry, because it upregulates your dopamine in a way that is not really in balance with your overall system, instead of upregulating the internal regulation mechanisms of your system wholistically.

[Butters]

22 hours ago, Cireeric said:

When I first tried Modafinil I really loved it, because I was so hyperfocussed for the whole day and at evenig I would got in so much information in the day. But nowadays I noticed the downsides more strongly too. I feel like on 100mg I get a bit robotic like I said, a bit less creative and more down the next day. I still enjoy it once or twice a week in a dose of 50mg now, the effects are not that strong in this way but I have more mental energy throughout the day to learn and less fatique, I can just get  more done in a day with a quarter of modafinil.

What is really amazing about it is that I can increase my motivation for learning stuff, getting really hyped about the topics I explore. I think if you use that dopamine spike in the right way you can increase your motivation and excitement for the right stuff. But be careful I also noticed that it increases the addiction pathways, making addictive behavior more pleasure(e.g. videogames, porn or whatever) , so if you have little addictions and engage with them on modafinil it can increase them too. Also I think overall its not the most wholistic substance for your brain chemistry, because it upregulates your dopamine in a way that is not really in balance with your overall system, instead of upregulating the internal regulation mechanisms of your system wholistically.

Good post. 

Try Moda + microdose acid if you're missing creativity. 

[UDT]

On 20/01/2023 at 2:23 PM, Butters said:

Try Moda + microdose acid if you're missing creativity. 

Did you try this ? Can you report how it was and dosing pls @Butters

[GabeN]

7 hours ago, UDT said:

Did you try this ? Can you report how it was and dosing pls @Butters

@UDT i tried a larger dose of acid on it,

 

would be careful as acid can get more intense and trip harder to control, maybe it was just me, but i'm sure it's not the best idea, microdosing however seems interesting with it.

[UDT]

@GabeN Gotcha, different psychedelic states than just acid ? cant imagine the two modafinil makes you more robotic imo and acid creative, weird combo