Eternal Unity

Solipsism is false

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@Carl-Richard Why not?


"I believe you are more afraid of condemning me to the stake than for me to receive your cruel and disproportionate punishment."

- Giordano Bruno, Campo de' Fiori, Rome, Italy. February 17th, 1600.

Cosmic pluralist, mathematician and poet.

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11 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

The only being that is conscious is not a person, so to say that other people have no consciousness is meaningless, because no person has consciousness in the first place. The person, the human character, does not have consciousness. It's an apparent limitation of consciousness, which we refer to as perception (sights, sounds, smells, tastes, sensations, etc.). Consciousness is an infinite being, not a finite person.

Yeah good point, that's why I said even my body is inside Mind. but I don't live like that. I can tap into it but quickly forget.

Is it even possible to be Mind and still live as a human? This question is so weird.

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Just now, Eternal Unity said:

@Carl-Richard Why not?

Why is not the universe the same as a single human being? The same reason why a swimming pool in not the same as an amoeba.


Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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1 minute ago, Vibes said:

Yeah good point, but I don't live like that. I can tap into it but quickly forget.

Is it even possible to be Mind and still live as a human? This question is so weird.

It's possible to break identification with the human and live from the identification with Mind most of the time. That is what spiritual practice is pointing towards.


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@Carl-Richard The thing is, my friend, it IS the same thing.


"I believe you are more afraid of condemning me to the stake than for me to receive your cruel and disproportionate punishment."

- Giordano Bruno, Campo de' Fiori, Rome, Italy. February 17th, 1600.

Cosmic pluralist, mathematician and poet.

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5 minutes ago, Eternal Unity said:

@Carl-Richard The thing is, my friend, it IS the same thing.

They're the same thing from the absolute perspective, but they're not the same thing from the relative perspective, which is the perspective we're talking about — you know, the place where we make distinctions.

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@Carl-Richard Right, they are one. If All is One, all is IDENTICAL!!!


"I believe you are more afraid of condemning me to the stake than for me to receive your cruel and disproportionate punishment."

- Giordano Bruno, Campo de' Fiori, Rome, Italy. February 17th, 1600.

Cosmic pluralist, mathematician and poet.

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Just now, Eternal Unity said:

@Carl-Richard Right, they are one. If All is One, all is IDENTICAL!!!

Yet here we are talking about it.


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@Carl-Richard Absolute = Relative


"I believe you are more afraid of condemning me to the stake than for me to receive your cruel and disproportionate punishment."

- Giordano Bruno, Campo de' Fiori, Rome, Italy. February 17th, 1600.

Cosmic pluralist, mathematician and poet.

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To not be able to hold a coherent conversation is not a sign of spiritual development. Keep your absolutes and relatives in order and everybody will be happy.

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Just now, Eternal Unity said:

@Carl-Richard Absolute = Relative

Yet here you are calling them by different names.


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9 minutes ago, Vibes said:

I can tap into it but quickly forget.

Good! Forget Not.


"I believe you are more afraid of condemning me to the stake than for me to receive your cruel and disproportionate punishment."

- Giordano Bruno, Campo de' Fiori, Rome, Italy. February 17th, 1600.

Cosmic pluralist, mathematician and poet.

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@Carl-Richard Thanks for the advice.


"I believe you are more afraid of condemning me to the stake than for me to receive your cruel and disproportionate punishment."

- Giordano Bruno, Campo de' Fiori, Rome, Italy. February 17th, 1600.

Cosmic pluralist, mathematician and poet.

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16 minutes ago, Vibes said:

Is it even possible to be Mind and still live as a human?

Yes.


"I believe you are more afraid of condemning me to the stake than for me to receive your cruel and disproportionate punishment."

- Giordano Bruno, Campo de' Fiori, Rome, Italy. February 17th, 1600.

Cosmic pluralist, mathematician and poet.

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8 minutes ago, Eternal Unity said:

@Carl-Richard Thanks for the advice.

Yes, it's absolutely crucial. Talking about the absolute is not the problem. It's to have a conversation about relative distinctions and then suddenly flip into to the absolute without acknowledging it which is the problem (or jumping back and forth between them like a jester).

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Just now, Eternal Unity said:

Yes.

Is so sad, is like you seen how the magic trick is done, but the magician is so good that he makes you forget, but not entirely, so you get in this kinda of limbo. Remembering and forgetting.

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@Vibes Smile


"I believe you are more afraid of condemning me to the stake than for me to receive your cruel and disproportionate punishment."

- Giordano Bruno, Campo de' Fiori, Rome, Italy. February 17th, 1600.

Cosmic pluralist, mathematician and poet.

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4 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

It's to have a conversation about relative distinctions and then suddenly flip into to the absolute without acknowledging it

Isn't it awakening? being able do to anything? Omnipotence and all that...


"I believe you are more afraid of condemning me to the stake than for me to receive your cruel and disproportionate punishment."

- Giordano Bruno, Campo de' Fiori, Rome, Italy. February 17th, 1600.

Cosmic pluralist, mathematician and poet.

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10 hours ago, Eternal Unity said:

Prove me wrong.

If solipsism was true, only YOU could do that.

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@Michael Jackson I did! Finally, i did :)


"I believe you are more afraid of condemning me to the stake than for me to receive your cruel and disproportionate punishment."

- Giordano Bruno, Campo de' Fiori, Rome, Italy. February 17th, 1600.

Cosmic pluralist, mathematician and poet.

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