Interesting Video About The Andrew Tate Situation

[Razard86]

Once I heard this video I realized that Tate uses Pimp Psychology to make his webcam money and the people on this video noticed it too. Pimp Psychology is all about tricking a woman into making you her world, her everything. Through this process she will basically do your bidding and the pimp manipulates it to use her as a conduit to get money from desperate men who are starved for sex. The term for men who spend money on women for sex is called tricks. So pimps use their women to get money from tricks. It's all a game with a deep psychology. You can read the book The Pimp Game by Mickey Royal to understand the Dark Psychology involved in this process.

Understand that this was the guy you all were mesmerized and drawn too. This is his true face.

 

[Eternal Unity]

 

[Danioover9000]

@Eternal Unity

2 hours ago, Eternal Unity said:

 

   Thumbnail game is improving for Leo. Andrew Tate looking like the king of stage red or something!

[dualnon]

Interestingggg......

I've been toying round with the idea that the Andrew Tate philosophy actually IS functional, given certain societal conditions. And something that Andrew Says in this video leads me to believe there is something to that idea. And the implications of it are kind of mental.

Take the following with a grain of salt. Just an idea I've been contemplating.

If you take, for instance, the idea that structural hierarchy and gender roles throughout history are founded on two things. 1 Access to resources, 2 Need for resources, you'll arrive at a worldview that necessitates traditional gender roles in the sense that the biggest and strongest biological entity is the one with all the control over the resources and who gets them.  This makes sense in a tribal society. 

Also, take the idea that societal progress doesn't just happen. It is spurred on by technological progress. Why do other animals not develop societal systems as complex and atomised as Humans have done? Because they don't know how to use technology, and they don't have minds sophisticated enough to apply that technology to novel problems. And so, there is biological evolution, but no societal and cultural evolution.

Now, one thing that technological progress achieves is a kind of egalitarianism that most people would attribute to legislative change and alterations to the justice system. Where there were once tribe leaders who controlled all the resources, and then kings and queens who passed down access to resources to those below them, soon capitalism allowed any man or woman to become a king or queen to themselves. And as this process continues, it becomes evident that the gender roles that were emergent from the conditions of the early tribal society are not necessary anymore.

Tate says: "your goal is to inspire a girl to make money and then give it all to you" "At the beginning she will need you, but then she won't need you, but you have to keep that fallacy, keep that dream alive". 

A criticism of Tate I hear often on the left is that Andrew Tate teaches young men who want to protect their position of power in the social hierarchy exactly how to do that by oppressing women. 

The key question here is. Why would the woman not need you anymore? 

The answer: because she can get resources for herself.

So Tate has to keep himself in a position that he controls the resources, through dominance (both physical and mental), intimidation, and coercion. And to do that he has to know what drives women at the most primal level. And of course, it does actually work given you can preserve the environmental conditions by convincing the woman that her access to these resources is limited.

I think there's something to be said here about how Andrew Tate could be seen as a microcosm of the capitalist system as a whole. And how if you know the rules of the game, you can "win". Andrew knows the rules. And young men flock to him to learn them so they can also win. Something the left doesn't teach people how to do because it doesn't value the same things the right does.

Also an interesting insight into how capitalism seeks to maintain artificial scarcity to secure its dominance. Even though there is abundance available through the application of technology in the right way.

 

I don't have a conclusion to any of this. lol. Just thoughts I don't know what to do with

[Eternal Unity]

2 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

 

Thumbnail game is improving for Leo.

☝️?

[Danioover9000]

@dualnon

16 hours ago, dualnon said:

Interestingggg......

I've been toying round with the idea that the Andrew Tate philosophy actually IS functional, given certain societal conditions. And something that Andrew Says in this video leads me to believe there is something to that idea. And the implications of it are kind of mental.

Take the following with a grain of salt. Just an idea I've been contemplating.

If you take, for instance, the idea that structural hierarchy and gender roles throughout history are founded on two things. 1 Access to resources, 2 Need for resources, you'll arrive at a worldview that necessitates traditional gender roles in the sense that the biggest and strongest biological entity is the one with all the control over the resources and who gets them.  This makes sense in a tribal society. 

Also, take the idea that societal progress doesn't just happen. It is spurred on by technological progress. Why do other animals not develop societal systems as complex and atomised as Humans have done? Because they don't know how to use technology, and they don't have minds sophisticated enough to apply that technology to novel problems. And so, there is biological evolution, but no societal and cultural evolution.

Now, one thing that technological progress achieves is a kind of egalitarianism that most people would attribute to legislative change and alterations to the justice system. Where there were once tribe leaders who controlled all the resources, and then kings and queens who passed down access to resources to those below them, soon capitalism allowed any man or woman to become a king or queen to themselves. And as this process continues, it becomes evident that the gender roles that were emergent from the conditions of the early tribal society are not necessary anymore.

Tate says: "your goal is to inspire a girl to make money and then give it all to you" "At the beginning she will need you, but then she won't need you, but you have to keep that fallacy, keep that dream alive". 

A criticism of Tate I hear often on the left is that Andrew Tate teaches young men who want to protect their position of power in the social hierarchy exactly how to do that by oppressing women. 

The key question here is. Why would the woman not need you anymore? 

The answer: because she can get resources for herself.

So Tate has to keep himself in a position that he controls the resources, through dominance (both physical and mental), intimidation, and coercion. And to do that he has to know what drives women at the most primal level. And of course, it does actually work given you can preserve the environmental conditions by convincing the woman that her access to these resources is limited.

I think there's something to be said here about how Andrew Tate could be seen as a microcosm of the capitalist system as a whole. And how if you know the rules of the game, you can "win". Andrew knows the rules. And young men flock to him to learn them so they can also win. Something the left doesn't teach people how to do because it doesn't value the same things the right does.

Also an interesting insight into how capitalism seeks to maintain artificial scarcity to secure its dominance. Even though there is abundance available through the application of technology in the right way.

 

I don't have a conclusion to any of this. lol. Just thoughts I don't know what to do with

   In that scenario, if you go far back into history where stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personalities and psychology, ego development, states of consciousness, life experiences and other lines of development in areas of life, ideology and indoctrination were different and more limited than today, then Tate's philosophy could work, because the technological/economic/social epoch at that time were more primitive, information and other ecological factors were simpler, resources were more scarce that I could dominate, conquer and make you my slave. So, in theory you like Andrew Tate's philosophy, until someone like me or someone else comes to dominate and conquer you, which puts you into a cognitive dissonance and stock holm syndrome to cope with the situation of you losing. Which is why Tate's philosophy, in history, was for the most part extinct itself out of the ecology, and something more useful and more broader took it's place. 

[dualnon]

5 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@dualnon

   In that scenario, if you go far back into history where stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personalities and psychology, ego development, states of consciousness, life experiences and other lines of development in areas of life, ideology and indoctrination were different and more limited than today, then Tate's philosophy could work, because the technological/economic/social epoch at that time were more primitive, information and other ecological factors were simpler, resources were more scarce that I could dominate, conquer and make you my slave. So, in theory you like Andrew Tate's philosophy, until someone like me or someone else comes to dominate and conquer you, which puts you into a cognitive dissonance and stock holm syndrome to cope with the situation of you losing. Which is why Tate's philosophy, in history, was for the most part extinct itself out of the ecology, and something more useful and more broader took it's place. 

Yeah, exactly! Although, I don't think the process of evolution/extinction has run its full cycle yet. Tates philosophy IS still functional. But it's fighting an uphill battle.

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, dualnon said:

Yeah, exactly! Although, I don't think the process of evolution/extinction has run its full cycle yet. Tates philosophy IS still functional. But it's fighting an uphill battle.

Sociopaths can be very successful. Although they will usually self-destruct in the long-run.

The business world has plenty of sociopaths in it who skate by by bullying and exploiting ethical actors.

But at least such people don't pretend that they are doing some kind of personal development.

Edited January 17, 2023 by Leo Gura

[StarStruck]

On 12-1-2023 at 10:17 PM, Razard86 said:

Once I heard this video I realized that Tate uses Pimp Psychology to make his webcam money and the people on this video noticed it too. Pimp Psychology is all about tricking a woman into making you her world, her everything. Through this process she will basically do your bidding and the pimp manipulates it to use her as a conduit to get money from desperate men who are starved for sex. The term for men who spend money on women for sex is called tricks. So pimps use their women to get money from tricks. It's all a game with a deep psychology. You can read the book The Pimp Game by Mickey Royal to understand the Dark Psychology involved in this process.

Understand that this was the guy you all were mesmerized and drawn too. This is his true face.

 

It is remarkable how everybody went from licking his ass to taking turns to take shits on Andrew Tate, now they see he is going down.

 

Edited January 17, 2023 by StarStruck

[Danioover9000]

@StarStruck

11 hours ago, StarStruck said:

It is remarkable how everybody went from licking his ass to taking turns to take shits on Andrew Tate, now they see he is going down.

 

   Which is why I hate Influencers and public speakiers in YouTube or Tik Tok, most of em have nearly zero integrity and are clout chasing hypocrites.

[Razard86]

On 1/16/2023 at 11:10 PM, StarStruck said:

It is remarkable how everybody went from licking his ass to taking turns to take shits on Andrew Tate, now they see he is going down.

 

I've never licked his ass, I sensed his inauthenticity from a mile away. When you make your life purpose to be the most honest person you can ever be, you will sense dishonesty from a mile away. You will sense something off but not understand why.

[Israfil]

On 16/01/2023 at 5:35 PM, dualnon said:

Yeah, exactly! Although, I don't think the process of evolution/extinction has run its full cycle yet. Tates philosophy IS still functional. But it's fighting an uphill battle.

I doubt Andrew Tate has any true and meaningful connection. He instrumentalizes everyone in his life. Human connection is a hole that 33 Bugattis can't fill up.

[Jodistrict]

What he admits to in the video violates Islam and Sharia law, which he says he has converted to.  So does he now repudiate these practices?  Or is he just using Islam like he uses everything else?

 

[Danioover9000]

@Jodistrict

34 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

What he admits to in the video violates Islam and Sharia law, which he says he has converted to.  So does he now repudiate these practices?  Or is he just using Islam like he uses everything else?

 

   Most likely he's just using Islam and saying he's converted to being a Muslim in order to market and draw in more audiences of those communities into his own. Remember his value system is mostly stage red with some blue and orange, cognitively underdeveloped with an egocentric morality, personality seems to be more extroverted-close minded-orderly-disagreeable-higher in neuroticism and Narcissism, mostly Opportunist in the 9 stages of ego development by Jane Loevinger, Feminine and some masculine shadow aspects of his psyche, I don't know his other lines of development in his different life domain and societal conditions he was raised under, along with other ideologies indoctrinated into him from culture and his family structure, and the nature of his mind in Neuro linguistic programming terms.