A Mild 5-meo-dmt Trip?

[Hsinav]

Has anyone heard of or experienced a positive mild 5-meo trip?

Or is this substance only useful in breakthrough dosages?

[outlandish]

Yes! 8mg insufflated (I think most people would consider that mild) was extremely positive for me. It was difficult at the beginning, and then I hit a catharsis turning it into an absolutely ecstatic experience. It was a microcosm of a more full blown experience like at 20mg. 

Below 8mg I didn't really experience anything noteworthy - neither very unpleasant/difficult, or enjoyable/rewarding.

I believe that it's useful at all doses, and that everyone should work their way up with it. Even if it weren't useful at low doses, it's a good safety habit to work your way up, and also to get the practice for good technique.

[Hsinav]

@outlandish

Great, thanks!

[pluto]

I haven't had pure DMT in a long time almost a year now and i know 5-meo is different as they say but based on my experiences and all the things i have read as well as others experiences i believe its quite possible to reach the same states of consciousness (if you will).

The description in that infinite state quite similar to what i experienced after all the visuals and when i came to the realization that all these visuals, fractals, vibrations, entities, higher selves ect.. is ultimately me guiding myself to reach my infinite/creator self or oneness again and in that moment they all just vanished and ceased to exist and i was put into this infinite void or space of nothingness yet experiencing everything in creation all at once 100% capacity. Pure presence, pure awareness nothing else.

Its so strange that you can experience through everything in existence, every eyes, every sense that exists all at once even for a split second this will change you forever.

What interests me is that they say the highest state of the universe is unconditional love, but i experienced that in the lower stages but when i was at this state it was beyond that. It was just pure consciousness, no feeling, no love, no fear, no thought, absolutely nothingness yet everything.

Maybe i just cant remember it well but that experience when i entered that final infinite state lasted about 15-30 seconds real-time but it felt like in was always there forever and ever. So is 5-meo is a direct connection to that state?

I feel N'N-DMT may be easier for some people because all the illusions and fractals/sacred geometry, visuals ect.. have a powerful hypnotizing effect and once you surrender and allow to what you are experiencing you go beyond all of that and into the heart of existence.

[Leo Gura]

Even a sub-breakthrough experience will rock your world and is worth the panic attack.

Can you avoid the panic? That's dicey. When you do psychedelics, you gotta muster up some balls. It's a learning experience.