Dark chocolate containing high amounts of Lead - Should I chelate?

[roopepa]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Basically any food in powder form is a toxic chemical dump.

Except those that are not. ? You can find test results from quality brands.

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, roopepa said:

Except those that are not. ? You can find test results from quality brands.

Assuming you trust them.

3rd party reports are really needed and those are hard to find for most brands. Not to mention that at any time a brand can swap suppliers in their chain and you will never know.

We badly need a government agency to track these assholes and their toxic ways. They are ruining lives to save pennies.

Edited January 14, 2023 by Leo Gura

[mmKay]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Basically any food in powder form is a toxic chemical dump. The more they can grind it up, the less you can tell how low quality it was to begin with, which is perfect for biz.

That would mean literally even 95% of supplements... ??

[UDT]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Basically any food in powder form is a toxic chemical dump. The more they can grind it up, the less you can tell how low quality it was to begin with, which is perfect for biz.

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[UDT]

39 minutes ago, mmKay said:

That would mean literally even 95% of supplements... ??

Thats why you shop for lab tested brands and dont buy stuff off amazon 

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, mmKay said:

That would mean literally even 95% of supplements... ??

Actually I think supplements aren't so bad because many supplements are just pure synthetic chemicals from labs, not stuff grow with pesticides and dirty water.

Like a pure magnesium or zinc supplement should not have much toxins.

The real problem is with stuff that must be grown in poor 3rd world countries. Harvested herbal supplements you definitely need to be careful with, especially since many of them come from China or India which are toxic waste dumps.

Quality supplement brands also tend to do more lab testing of their products. Although there have been plenty of reports that show that many supplements simply lie about their ingredients.

Edited January 15, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Javfly33]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Basically any food in powder form is a toxic chemical dump. The more they can grind it up, the less you can tell how low quality it was to begin with, which is perfect for biz.

I guess that's why most powders ive tried (like Huel or similar protein "organic" vegan powders) I have to dump them countn´t even finish them they just felt so weird in my body 

The real problem is with stuff that must be grown in poor 3rd world countries. Harvested herbal supplements you definitely need to be careful with, especially since many of them come from China or India which are toxic waste dumps.

@Leo Gura In India organic conscious agriculture is growing though. There are some companies that offer products.

Or you mean the quality overall of the soil its toxic due to massive unregulated waste disposal of factories to rivers, etc...? (So basically the fact that is organic won't save you because the soil has been getting contaminated the previous years/decades)

Edited January 15, 2023 by Javfly33

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

I guess that's why most powders ive tried (like Huel or similar protein "organic" vegan powders) I have to dump them countn´t even finish them they just felt so weird in my body 

@Leo Gura In India organic conscious agriculture is growing though. There are some companies that offer products.

Or you mean the quality overall of the soil its toxic due to massive unregulated waste disposal of factories to rivers, etc...? (So basically the fact that is organic won't save you because the soil has been getting contaminated the previous years/decades)

I would not trust any Indian "organic" certification. Those Indians are master scammers. I barely trust an American organic certification. The whole system is built on scams.

Edited January 15, 2023 by Leo Gura

[EugeneTheSage]

@Javfly33 I know there is city in India where there is 1000 factories and the water is highly contaminated with heavy metals. I think that's the source

[Intraplanetary]

kinda relevant.

 

 

[Soulbass]

Is raw cacao powder concerned as well?

(I use some on my smoothies)

[Javfly33]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I would not trust any Indian "organic" certification. Those Indians are master scammers. I barely trust an American organic certification. The whole system is built on scams.

I don't know how corrupt/scammy the USA organic market is, but in Europe the organic logo can only be used on products that have been certified as organic by the authorised European agencies.

I know obviously India its outside EU but in the products ive bought, there is the same logo but instead it says "Non-EU agriculture", so it really seems it just works the same way (that Europe needs to give the "Ok" to be able to accept it for market).

Edited January 16, 2023 by Javfly33

[Leo Gura]

33 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

I don't know how corrupt/scammy the USA organic market is, but in Europe the organic logo can only be used on products that have been certified as organic by the authorised European agencies.

I know obviously India its outside EU but in the products ive bought, there is the same logo but instead it says "Non-EU agriculture", so it really seems it just works the same way (that Europe needs to give the "Ok" to be able to accept it for market).

Even with all those certs they are still cutting corners and it's impossible to know who.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Soulbass said:

Is raw cacao powder concerned as well?

Of course!

[Matt23]

R.i.p green and blacks... my fav. 

[MarkKol]

So what was the conclusion to this thread, should we all just eat dark chocolate under 'safer choices' like Mast and Ghirardelli or what?

Is there a way to make dark chocolate ourselves without as much lead and cadmium?

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by MarkKol

[Leo Gura]

The conclusion is to severely limit your intake of chocolate. Or do a lot of annual chelation.

Edited August 2, 2023 by Leo Gura

[MarkKol]

Such a shame. I could use some dark chocolate in my diet