Has anyone discovered Coral?

[thisintegrated]

You can see up to 2 stages above your own, so anyone at Yellow/Turquoise should be able to have an idea of what Coral is about.

I think I'm starting to understand Coral, but could use some other perspectives from this forum.

[Osaid]

 

[thisintegrated]

11 minutes ago, Osaid said:

 

OP: "So I've been doing a lot of research into spiral dynamics recently"

I don't think he has a good idea.

 

Kinda need people with experience in discovering Coral.

Edited January 8, 2023 by thisintegrated

[Osaid]

Just now, thisintegrated said:

I don't think he has a good idea.

Yeah, that's why he made the thread. Most of the thread consists of many different perspectives which aren't necessarily from the OP.

At the end he did create a post where he attempts to define it though:

 

[John Paul]

You can theorize about turquoise from yellow. But once you’re entering turquoise you’ll realize coral doesn’t exist- or that spiral dynamics isn’t at all practical to think about anymore.

[thisintegrated]

1 minute ago, John Paul said:

You can theorize about turquoise from yellow. But once you’re entering turquoise you’ll realize coral doesn’t exist- or that spiral dynamics isn’t at all practical to think about anymore.

I thought that for the longest time, but then had a few Coral insights.

I don't come up with this stuff, ideas/insights exist independently of me and my views.

[John Paul]

2 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

I thought that for the longest time, but then had a few Coral insights.

I don't come up with this stuff, ideas/insights exist independently of me and my views.

So then, is there a stage beyond coral? Stage turtle? It’s just stupid man, cmon. At turquoise you should be working on transcending language and connecting with the universe. What’s more advanced than that?

[thisintegrated]

Just now, John Paul said:

So then, is there a stage beyond coral? Stage turtle? It’s just stupid man, cmon. At turquoise you should be working on transcending language and connecting with the universe. What’s more advanced than that?

Coral is going back to the individualistic side, the "selfishly inquisitive" side.

Turquoise realizes there's nothing left to discover, and any desire to keep exploring and discovering is a delusion and an addiction, but Coral decides to keep exploring anyway for the sake of expansion, as that expansion is Coral itself.

Turquoise is perfectly content doing nothing, as all is perfect, and is the first stage in which you're truly an adult.  But everything being fine isn't the peak of our potential.  Our potential is infinite, and Turquoise is just the start.

[Carl-Richard]

What you think is Yellow is Orange, and what you think is Turquoise is Green.

Edited January 9, 2023 by Carl-Richard

[thisintegrated]

2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

What you think Yellow is is Orange, and what you think Turquoise is is Green.

lol, no.  But I understand why you'd like to think so.

[Michael Jackson]

I am stage coral.

[thisintegrated]

1 minute ago, Michael Jackson said:

I am stage coral.

Bro.. ask Carl for the u know what.  We need more people like you.

Edited January 9, 2023 by thisintegrated

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, thisintegrated said:

lol, no.  But I understand why you'd like to think so.

You're a young Western guy who likely discovered New-Age spirituality in his teens like many people here, so you're at least entering Green. You don't have much insight into how logical argumentation can lead to self-deception, you repeatedly ruffle people's feathers even when it's to your own detriment, and you haphazardly mix contents of established theoretical frameworks with contents of your personal worldview; all signs of a lack of context/construct awareness and not having fully left Orange.

Edited January 9, 2023 by Carl-Richard

[Michael Jackson]

3 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

Bro.. ask Carl for the u know what.  We need more people like you.

@thisintegrated sry bro I can't, I might get banned:o 17 warning points already

[Carl-Richard]

1 minute ago, Michael Jackson said:

@thisintegrated sry bro I can't, I might get banned:o 17 warning points already

Dafuq are you talking about? 

[thisintegrated]

6 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

You're a young Western guy who likely discovered New-Age spirituality in his teens like many people here, so you're at least entering Green. You don't have much insight into how logical argumentation can lead to self-deception, and

I discovered spirituality when I was fully ready for it, at Green, age 14.  I'm 24 now.  I entered Yellow at around 18, at university.

Need any other details?

 

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you repeatedly ruffle the people's feathers even when it's strategically unwise to do so 

That's a sign of Yellow, if anything.  Being fully aware that it puts me at a disadvantage, I do it anyway.  No Orange would voluntarily worsen their hand.  It's because I don't care about maximizing my reputation/status here.  You wouldn't understand.

 

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 all signs of not having fully left Orange.

Orange uses just the right language to benefit itself the most.  I do the opposite, for entertainment and to show that being serious all the time leads you nowhere in the end.

Edited January 9, 2023 by thisintegrated

[thisintegrated]

5 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Dafuq are you talking about? 

Good, the mods haven't broken our encryption yet??

 

6 minutes ago, Michael Jackson said:

@thisintegrated sry bro I can't, I might get banned:o 17 warning points already

Wow, only 12 here.  Leo must actually love me back??

Edited January 9, 2023 by thisintegrated

[Carl-Richard]

8 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

I discovered spirituality when I was fully ready for it, at Green, age 14. I'm 24 now.  I entered Yellow at around 18, at university.

Need any other details?

Describe what "Green" was like at 14, and "Yellow" was like at 18.

 

8 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

It's because I don't care about maximizing my reputation/status here.

Because ruffling people's feathers would only be about "reputation/status", not about people's emotions, hence Orange.

Edited January 9, 2023 by Carl-Richard

[thisintegrated]

Just now, Carl-Richard said:

Describe what "Green" was like at 14, and "Yellow" was like at 18.

Ugh..

 

Green:  I was into stuff like crystals, vibrations, no-fluoride, sustainable/natural living, astral projection, exploring other dimensions of reality, lucid dreaming, wanted freedom, had romanticised ideas about reality, etc.

Yellow:  I had discovered the beauty in politics as a concept, I wanted to be president or work for a regulatory body or anything that put me in direct contact with the systems that run society, I was deep into experimental music theory and loved theorizing stuff and how every single field I was into was connected and the same thing, I was always talking about UBI and writing long essays about how society could be restructured like by abolishing inheritance and how it could work, etc.

I was writing around a million words a year at Yellow.  But I'm well past that now.

[Sincerity]

30 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

What you think Yellow is is Orange, and what you think Turquoise is is Green.

Exactly.

I'd bet most of these people who spout stuff about coral are barely even green and have great deficiencies in the previous stages.

Ah yes, knowledge of a few psychological/sociological models, some spiritual development, a few independent insights, watching Leo's content, three Daniel Schmachtenberger videos, 1 Ken Wilber book, sprinkle some God-realization in there maybe and voila! I'm yellow/turquoise and I'm starting to understand coral, I'm serious guys!!! ...Uhhh guys?

Probably 99,99% of people can't even imagine what turquoise is.