Are buddhist monks / enlightened people scared of violence, being attacked etc

[rd5555]

If a buddhist monk or other englightened person was walking through a really dangerous neighbourhood:

 

1) would they feel scared about the possibility of being attacked?

 

2) if someone actually approached them aggressively and seemed like they were going to fight/stab/shoot/rob the monk, would the monk feel fear in this situation?

 

(assuming the buddhist monk wasn't trained in any martial arts etc)

 

I know fear is a very natural human response but I'm trying to work out if fear in these situations can be removed through mind control, enlightenment etc

 

 

[Thought Art]

@rd5555 Probably relatively scared and cautious 

[Inliytened1]

26 minutes ago, rd5555 said:

If a buddhist monk or other englightened person was walking through a really dangerous neighbourhood:

 

1) would they feel scared about the possibility of being attacked?

 

2) if someone actually approached them aggressively and seemed like they were going to fight/stab/shoot/rob the monk, would the monk feel fear in this situation?

 

(assuming the buddhist monk wasn't trained in any martial arts etc)

 

I know fear is a very natural human response but I'm trying to work out if fear in these situations can be removed through mind control, enlightenment etc

 

 

No. Fear of death is extinguished when you awaken.   Sadness may remain, but fear evaporates.   Fear is a lack of understanding. 

Edited January 5, 2023 by Inliytened1

[Breakingthewall]

Depending of the monk, probably this one no 

 

[Thought Art]

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

No. Fear of death is extinguished when you awaken.   Sadness may remain, but fear evaporates.   Fear is a lack of understanding. 

I honestly think this is a little unlikely. If you are sober, walking around… even enlightened people can and will feel fear. 

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

I honestly think this is a little unlikely. If you are sober, walking around… even enlightened people can and will feel fear. 

Nope.  You won't become enlightened until you are at least 50.  You've lived.  You've experienced.  It's only attachment  to whatever forms you have left is what remains.   When you awaken you know directly that death is an illusion.   So it is the dismantling of the illusion that bothers you.  Because you took so much time to set it up.  And you attached yourself.

Edited January 5, 2023 by Inliytened1

[Thought Art]

@Inliytened1 Maybe. I just think there are degrees and qualities of fear. Types of fear. The human organism has safety mechanisms at play to keep it alive. 
 

At least, this person is to be cautious. That’s a quality of fear. It’s unlikely an enlightened wise person would be suicidal or brash. But, they may do whatever. 
 

I’ve experienced death as an illusion many times. Yet, I still have a healthy fear. 

[Inliytened1]

13 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Inliytened1 Maybe. I just think there are degrees and qualities of fear. Types of fear. The human organism has safety mechanisms at play to keep it alive. 
 

At least, this person is to be cautious. That’s a quality of fear. It’s unlikely an enlightened wise person would be suicidal or brash. But, they may do whatever. 
 

I’ve experienced death as an illusion many times. Yet, I still have a healthy fear. 

Right.   But that boils down to survival.  And yes - Its relative.   If you want to keep living you will experience fear in the moment your death is threatened.  This is regardless of whether or not you are God realized.   But what I am proposing is the enlightened one or God realized one already expects this and thus bypasses the innate human fear built into survival.  In other words - he transcends survival. Heres the thing - he can fall easily back into the dream and be scared, but that would be something he is conscious that he allowed.  There is a big difference there.    This is self reflection.  

Edited January 5, 2023 by Inliytened1

[Jordan]

I would guess they would be afraid of pain although not nearly as much as other people in the same situation. 

[Razard86]

9 minutes ago, Jordan said:

I would guess they would be afraid of pain although not nearly as much as other people in the same situation. 

They can even transcend that with the right practices.

I'm clearly not at their level.

Edited January 10, 2023 by Razard86

[Jordan]

@Razard86  Wow, that is amazing what is possible. 

[Yimpa]

It’s all relative