Andrew Tate Arrested

[Danioover9000]

@petar8p

5 hours ago, petar8p said:

Ok people so it's not abuse, it's consented abuse!! 

 

Yeah, let's bring slave times back, but this time we will sign it all legally and offer them a lot of money!!

 

What makes you defend this guy so much when you've only seen 0.001% of his life?

   What makes you think I'm defending Tate, snow flake?

   Where in any posts in this thread have I endorsed slavery and bribery? Drama queen much?

   Use of satire and sarcasm does not remove your idiocy any more than inventing straw mans of my points and views.

Edited January 4, 2023 by Danioover9000

[Danioover9000]

@KH2

2 hours ago, KH2 said:

6 Pillars of Self-Esteem should be a mandatory read.

This is what I've been lacking, and what most people in general are lacking. Including most of you, including anti-Tate camp. Yall really should give it a read if you haven't yet.

It is basically guaranteed I wouldn't have fallen for his BS, if I had high self-esteem

You are fucked in life if you fundamentally don't trust yourself, and it doesn't matter what you manage to achieve

   BTW, that book is actually a solid book, if anyone here strictly applies themselves to that book, there would be lightly doubt left in one's self esteem.

   Robert Green's Mastery, Eric Ericson's Deliberate practice, and Napoleon Hill's Think And Grow Rich, they're fantastic reading.

[Danioover9000]

@Ulax

2 hours ago, Ulax said:

@KH2 I think there's value to what you're saying here dude.

However, I notice a pattern of absoluteism in the way you post. It seems to me you frequently jump from one ideology to another, and claim it is the best and claim its the way to go from everyone.

   There's always value in any one's posts here and in other sub forums here, it's just in the eyes of the beholder if those are more or less valuable.

   That's part of mastery, earlier in one's life they're likely to dabble to several fields of interest, sometimes discover one is exciting and act in zeal, until the honey moon period phase is over, they commonly then leap to another field, until they finally find the niche they want to develop themselves into.

   It's like the fig tree and the fig tree strangler, when it finds the one, it develops the roots over time, until it eventually reaches the earth is when they really have mastered their craft.

[Ulax]

@Danioover9000 I somewhat agree.

I'm just trying to point out dogma for the benefit of the poster, as well as those who read the comment.

[petar8p]

13 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

What makes you think I'm defending Tate, snow flake?

   Where in any posts in this thread have I endorsed slavery and bribery? Drama queen much?

   Use of satire and sarcasm does not remove your idiocy any more than inventing straw mans of my points and views.

I'm not gonna insult back. That was never the point. You are defending very questionable behaviour though.

 

Cheers!

[spiritual memes]

56 minutes ago, KH2 said:

@Ulax No dogma, just pure commitement to emotional mastery. Self-esteem first, then the rest

Self esteem is easier said then done. It requires you to dig deep into yourself

[spiritual memes]

Just now, KH2 said:

Well, fixing self-esteem alone would probably fix majority - if not all - of my mental suffering, and mental blockages. So it's worth focusing on it.

A lot of insecure angry thoughts keep bugging me throught the day. I need to detoxify myself somehow, look at things from fresh new perspective, gain awareness and actually really grow

I recommend Internal Family systems therapy. Its really useful for shadow work and gaining awareness into your subconscious thoughts.

[TRUTHWITHCAPITALT]

Criminal Lawyer Legally Analyzes ANDREW TATE'S OWN INCRIMINATING WORDS About His Business

[Danioover9000]

@petar8p

4 hours ago, petar8p said:

I'm not gonna insult back. That was never the point. You are defending very questionable behaviour though.

 

Cheers!

   No don't you cheers me, you slimy dear. You are caught in the spot light, fight back. You make very clear what you are accusing me of in this thread, no passive aggressive BS here!

   Imma tell it to you straight, in no way was I strongly defending Andrew Tate, not as much as you are making me out to be. So, unless you actually have evidence clearly showing me defending Andrew Tate in this thread, shut your trap. False Gossiping is bad for your nose.

[Danioover9000]

@Ulax

4 hours ago, Ulax said:

@Danioover9000 I somewhat agree.

I'm just trying to point out dogma for the benefit of the poster, as well as those who read the comment.

   Okay then, good to know it's for triggering purposes.

[petar8p]

25 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@petar8p

   No don't you cheers me, you slimy dear. You are caught in the spot light, fight back. You make very clear what you are accusing me of in this thread, no passive aggressive BS here!

   Imma tell it to you straight, in no way was I strongly defending Andrew Tate, not as much as you are making me out to be. So, unless you actually have evidence clearly showing me defending Andrew Tate in this thread, shut your trap. False Gossiping is bad for your nose.

You are loved!

[Tyler Robinson]

5 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@petar8p

   No don't you cheers me, you slimy dear. You are caught in the spot light, fight back. You make very clear what you are accusing me of in this thread, no passive aggressive BS here!

   Imma tell it to you straight, in no way was I strongly defending Andrew Tate, not as much as you are making me out to be. So, unless you actually have evidence clearly showing me defending Andrew Tate in this thread, shut your trap. False Gossiping is bad for your nose.

Maybe it's time for you to change your opinion on Tatey. 

[King Merk]

I’m losing brain cells reading through this thread 

[AdrianBartan]

I have to say something about Andrew and Romania. (I`m Romanian) .

First of all, understand the following he wants power. 

He did not become a Muslim because he found Allah, he did that in order to buy property in Dubai or Qatar, you need to be Muslim there. 

Second, he is misogynist because he needs to say those things, and act in a way that seems that he actually believes in Islam.

Third, he did not do human trafficking in the real sense or how people imagine it to be. I have talked with one of the girls that went to his parties she explained the following: "He teaches women how to act and make men fall in love with them, and puts these girls in contact with influential people all over the world, that is the point of these parties, power/money/status, also they film all the stuff, hidden cameras, voice recording etc.". Most of the girls are from SeekingArangement, not Instagram or Tinder, so there is a business side to this "trafficking".

Forth, Romania is a corrupt country, if he got arrested he upset the wrong people inside our country, and he was permitted to stay and do those things, whether he knows it or not.

The Tate brothers are in the business of making men fall in love with women with the end goal to achieve power over other men. If you want to do that of course you need to view women as property or assets and tell men what they want to hear. 

To be honest Tates views on everything are just a show, either if you agree with him or not it does not matter, because, in reality, we do not know what he truly thinks, these debates are pointless.

[zurew]

 

[Consept]

1 hour ago, zurew said:

 

Dam, between this and him bragging about how he run his cam business this is not looking good for Tate. I suspect he also pissed off Romania by constantly bragging about how he could get away with shit there. 

He will most likely go down for it, as long as the case is solid. The funny thing is he could've quite easily got away with it, if he didn't keep talking about it and showing off. Without him doing that a lot of it could be quite grey and hard to pin down but he's really exposed himself. He was addicted to the fame. 

The other sad thing is young men are really fucked if they're holding him up as a role model, there's such a lack of strong, healthy, masculine role models that an alleged sex trafficker is seen as the pinnacle of manhood. Even if he does get off, at the very least its very shady. 

[Lyubov]

Wow this thread has gotten big.

I think this is basically a culture war with Tate at the front representing the red pill and anyone that trashes him is on the other side. 
 

cause tbh I don’t see anything special about this guy besides he’s good at being offensive. He doesn’t say anything really interesting. He owns all the usually designer stuff and the sort of typical sports car a 14 yo boy dreams about owning.
 

He is kinda like Dan Bilzerian only more political, more toxic and he seems to be a rapist and making his fortune off exploring insecurities of guys selling bogus self help courses. Dan inherited all his wealth and then lied about making it all playing poker. I think tate ran a web cam studio too which can be used to abuse women. But also let’s not paint women as victims here, they need to take responsibility for associating with such a shady character. 

Dan got caught lying about owning that mansion in California. I guess these guys start falling apart when they get famous? Tate kinda reminds me of Dan but I think Dan is far less toxic and kinda just a chill guy who smokes a lot of weed and throw expensive parties and sleep with Instagram escorts. 

Edited January 5, 2023 by Lyubov

[Lyubov]

52 minutes ago, Fearey said:

It's suprising. I don't understand why threads concerning these super low consciousness individuals are so popular on this forum. What could someone pursuing self-actualization have to gain from someone that likely haven't even spent a second questioning the true nature of reality?

Because Tate is part of society and is aligned with society values and every person here is part of society and most are still aligned with society values. 
 

I’ve reflected a bit on this myself and I’ve come to the conclusion Tate’s behavior is disgusting and I believe the best course of action for him is prison. The guy basically is a serial rapist and online webcam pimp. It’s funny how people like Trump and Tate are arbiters of “traditional values” in 2022. Neither of these two individuals are traditional. 

[Danioover9000]

@Lyubov

2 hours ago, Lyubov said:

Wow this thread has gotten big.

I think this is basically a culture war with Tate at the front representing the red pill and anyone that trashes him is on the other side. 
 

cause tbh I don’t see anything special about this guy besides he’s good at being offensive. He doesn’t say anything really interesting. He owns all the usually designer stuff and the sort of typical sports car a 14 yo boy dreams about owning.
 

He is kinda like Dan Bilzerian only more political, more toxic and he seems to be a rapist and making his fortune off exploring insecurities of guys selling bogus self help courses. Dan inherited all his wealth and then lied about making it all playing poker. I think tate ran a web cam studio too which can be used to abuse women. But also let’s not paint women as victims here, they need to take responsibility for associating with such a shady character. 

Dan got caught lying about owning that mansion in California. I guess these guys start falling apart when they get famous? Tate kinda reminds me of Dan but I think Dan is far less toxic and kinda just a chill guy who smokes a lot of weed and throw expensive parties and sleep with Instagram escorts. 

   If we had to compare Tate with Dan and Tai Lopez, at least the later guys looked the part and gave very slightly more value than him. Still their courses sucks, but if anyone could extrapolate the key lessons, and then abstract them and integrate them into your mind, contextualized to your life, then actually that's the better way of learning from these guys.

   Guys like Andrew Tate, Tai Lopez, Dan, Tony Robbins, Gary Vee, values entertainment guy, Tim Ferris, Robert Green, and even Eben Pagan, and even the wolf of walstreet guy, all of these self help gurus and entrepreneurs are not just simple black and white good or evil guys, there's a lot of grey areas here and there, which forces your mind to further try to differentiate and make more distinctions to integrate what works and leave out what doesn't. Based on stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality typing, ego development, states of consciousness, life experiences and other lines of development in different interconnected areas of life. The capacity to abstract, extrapolate and integrate whilst disintegrating lesser qualities of one's character is a powerful ability to cultivate over time.

   Another issue this brings up, is what are the ethical standards of self help and entrepreneurship? Is it a ratio of hustle culture : business and commerce? 

[Danioover9000]

@Lyubov

1 hour ago, Lyubov said:

Because Tate is part of society and is aligned with society values and every person here is part of society and most are still aligned with society values. 
 

I’ve reflected a bit on this myself and I’ve come to the conclusion Tate’s behavior is disgusting and I believe the best course of action for him is prison. The guy basically is a serial rapist and online webcam pimp. It’s funny how people like Trump and Tate are arbiters of “traditional values” in 2022. Neither of these two individuals are traditional. 

   True, we live in a society, which has multiple complex factors of development, including relative notions and relative rules that need to be enforced to some degree.

   They do have some partial traditional values in their psyche, otherwise they would be far more savage and brutal and unhinged and have more predominant stage red values, and not 'civilized' and bureaucratic and collectivist/conformist like stage blue. However, those stage blue values are not present enough to be top priority, instead the unhealthy elements of stage red and stage orange (Both stage red/orange is a wave of individualism, coming back to the self rather than to others and the collective) are more present in Trump and Andrew Tate and bubble from their unconscious into their waking consciousness every now and then, whilst they keep a stage blue/orange appearances.

   If the alleged claims of him sex trafficking are proven in court, he is guilty and should be sentenced to prison, I agree here. If it's proven Andrew Tate is not guilty of sex trafficking, then he does not go to jail, regardless of any moral qualms you or I or any stage green person here has for his behavior and worldview. No human being deserves anything this or that, those are distortions we project onto reality of our ideal situation we want.

   Here's an interesting question: If any of you truly hate Andrew Tate, and you view yourself as the vigilante and Coffeezilla like complex, what's stopping you from trying to kill him? If he truly is evil, rapist and scammer, well, what are you doing just watching him do these alleged things? Shows how many of us have significantly surrendered over our authority to social infrastructures like politics and policing, and are happy just complaining.