Why isn't easier to date girls from school?

[NoSelfSelf]

@TheGreekSeeker ill intents to tell him that hes boring women, that he should be able to express himself better and stop pretending that hes all perfect with no flaws just women are too shallow to realize it? okay im assuming 

[LordFall]

7 hours ago, Hardkill said:

Not being very emotionally expressive is a form of stoicism. That's masculine, whereas being flamboyant is more feminine.

Btw, almost all of the girls at the college I was at haven't accomplished anywhere near what I have throughout my whole life. These are nothing special.

In any case, no one is answering why dating girls from school isn't easier than from cold approach or online dating. Most guys meet their significant other either from work or school or social circle. 

Therefore, it still doesn't add up to me.

You're just wrong though. @NoSelfSelf perfectly diagnosed you from two posts, it is also obvious to me that you would be struggling with game and connecting with women from just reading this reply too. 

Women need to feel your emotions to connect to you. NO, it doesn't mean that you need to cry and be flamboyant and tell everyone how you feel. Yes to be truly masculine and "alpha" you need to be grounded in you emotions and not let them control you but that also truly means being able to express them freely when you want/need to. being fully stoic is like being emotionally damaged and stunted, kind of like a monotone computer programmer. Women HATE that, it feels dead to them, like a mix of boring and creepy. 

Dating girls from cold approach and online game is easier because it's an isolated environment. It makes girls screen you only based off of looks and your basic game. Girls from school are fully exposed to your personality and also are judged by their peers so are a bit more closed off. I'm telling you that from your replies, you are both emotionally closed off and REACTIVE. Like you have some sort of unhealed trauma. If me and the mods can sense it than girls that go to class with you for weeks/months will feel it and be put off by it. That's why they're scared to give you their numbers, you somehow register as a threat to them. If you're an open and energetically safe guy then they would give you their number on the first day no problem.

This is not an attack, I'm trying to give you some insight. The good news is that if you have success online and through night game then you just have to fix a couple issues and you'll be fine. I think it has to do with unhealed trauma IMO. I would look into Julien's stuff transformation mastery and like plain old boring therapy.

Considering your personality I think you'll be put off by therapy. Don't be, it's great. It will literally help your game, like legit 100%. It's not a waste of time. 

@TheGreekSeeker I think you're wrong. There's a lot of good to be said about tough love and harsh constructive criticism. Sensitive snowflakes don't achieve big things. If you're offended by someone giving you shit and trying to help you then I don't think you understand the world. Personally, I'm offended by people specifically being compassionate and giving me bullshit advice, it's like your aunt telling you you're handsome and why don't you have a girlfriend. Fuck you Auntie, you should've told me I was awkward and to do more pushups, that would've helped. 

I am exaggerating and there should be a balance but I think the mods were fair, I don't understand the offensive here and don't think it is warranted. 

[NoSelfSelf]

@LordFall So true if we can see it, then women can see it on steroids and immidietly put him in a box where he wont come out..and beating around the bush being friendly to get them at the end of semester is manipulative im not againts the guy im trying to tell how it is...

[Hardkill]

9 hours ago, NoSelfSelf said:

@LordFall So true if we can see it, then women can see it on steroids and immidietly put him in a box where he wont come out..and beating around the bush being friendly to get them at the end of semester is manipulative im not againts the guy im trying to tell how it is...

Dude, I think you're taking this way too seriously. 

You really most of the guys in high school and college who got girls knew what the hell they were doing let alone using seduction techniques from RSD, Mystery Method, Locario, ARC, etc.?

Again, this isn't rocket science and not even supposed to be as hard running for some high level political office, persuading a cutthroat Shark Tank to invest in a business proposal of mine, or being a diplomat who's trying to make peace between a foreign country and his own country.

Plus, every girl in high school and college ain't shit, regardless of how popular they are at school. Almost none of them are like famous celebrities or models.

I am not trying to argue with you for the sake of arguing. I am just telling it like it is.

Edited December 31, 2022 by Hardkill

[Hardkill]

17 hours ago, LordFall said:

You're just wrong though. @NoSelfSelf perfectly diagnosed you from two posts, it is also obvious to me that you would be struggling with game and connecting with women from just reading this reply too. 

Women need to feel your emotions to connect to you. NO, it doesn't mean that you need to cry and be flamboyant and tell everyone how you feel. Yes to be truly masculine and "alpha" you need to be grounded in you emotions and not let them control you but that also truly means being able to express them freely when you want/need to. being fully stoic is like being emotionally damaged and stunted, kind of like a monotone computer programmer. Women HATE that, it feels dead to them, like a mix of boring and creepy. 

Dating girls from cold approach and online game is easier because it's an isolated environment. It makes girls screen you only based off of looks and your basic game. Girls from school are fully exposed to your personality and also are judged by their peers so are a bit more closed off. I'm telling you that from your replies, you are both emotionally closed off and REACTIVE. Like you have some sort of unhealed trauma. If me and the mods can sense it than girls that go to class with you for weeks/months will feel it and be put off by it. That's why they're scared to give you their numbers, you somehow register as a threat to them. If you're an open and energetically safe guy then they would give you their number on the first day no problem.

This is not an attack, I'm trying to give you some insight. The good news is that if you have success online and through night game then you just have to fix a couple issues and you'll be fine. I think it has to do with unhealed trauma IMO. I would look into Julien's stuff transformation mastery and like plain old boring therapy.

Considering your personality I think you'll be put off by therapy. Don't be, it's great. It will literally help your game, like legit 100%. It's not a waste of time. 

@TheGreekSeeker I think you're wrong. There's a lot of good to be said about tough love and harsh constructive criticism. Sensitive snowflakes don't achieve big things. If you're offended by someone giving you shit and trying to help you then I don't think you understand the world. Personally, I'm offended by people specifically being compassionate and giving me bullshit advice, it's like your aunt telling you you're handsome and why don't you have a girlfriend. Fuck you Auntie, you should've told me I was awkward and to do more pushups, that would've helped. 

I am exaggerating and there should be a balance but I think the mods were fair, I don't understand the offensive here and don't think it is warranted. 

Once again, guys like you are just making blanket statements that are very unfair.

Unhealed trauma from what? Are some kind of mental health expert or psychologist?

You haven't even seen what I look or what my voice sounds like. 

Furthermore, I've already been to therapy and been on psych meds for most of my life.

I've already looked into both Owen's and Julien's vids and they still didn't cut it for me.

I've also tried many different kinds of seduction techniques from many of the best dating and seduction gurus out there and already hundreds and hundreds of girls in all different kinds of places for years.

Also, how do you explain how many guys in high school and college who are ugly or homely and have never been all that cool been able to easily hook up with and dating girls in school? Surely almost all of them didn't use any seduction techniques from a pickup/dating expert because the vast majority of men out there in general, don't.

Why do you think I've gotten so demoralized? How would you feel about your self-esteem and hopes for success with women in general if you were me?

I really don't see how fixing a couple of issues with my game is going to take my game to next level from a realistic/practical standpoint. 

 

 

Edited December 31, 2022 by Hardkill

[Roy]

I'm not sure if I'm having a stroke or something reading this. The thread title is why isn't it easier to date girls from school, then within your post you say you have no problems getting numbers from girls at school in class?

Which is it?

[Hardkill]

11 minutes ago, Roy said:

I'm not sure if I'm having a stroke or something reading this. The thread title is why isn't it easier to date girls from school, then within your post you say you have no problems getting numbers from girls at school in class?

Which is it?

Well, I can get a lot numbers from girls at school in general, but even then I've been struggling to turn those numbers into dates and lays or what have you. I only got one girl from my class to go out, but she didn't seem all that into me sexually/romantically on the date.

I am also still dumbfounded why many of the girls I've talked to who have given me strong indicators of interest didn't either want to give me their phone number or hangout with me.

Edited December 31, 2022 by Hardkill

[Roy]

38 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

I am also still dumbfounded why many of the girls I've talked to who have given me strong indicators of interest didn't either want to give me their phone number or hangout with me.

Two things; It's possible you aren't interpreting their indicators correctly. There might just be nothing there when you think there is, or you're exaggerating something small to mean something bigger. I'd have to be there to see, I don't know what your experiences look like.

Also girls/women in general can be pleasant and friendly, it's in their nature to show those traits, even if there is zero romantic interest. It's coded into their survival strategy. Females survive in the world mostly through social networking and being good with people, while males survive because of skill/ability with things.

Edited December 31, 2022 by Roy

[Hardkill]

45 minutes ago, Roy said:

Two things; It's possible you aren't interpreting their indicators correctly. There might just be nothing there when you think there is, or you're exaggerating something small to mean something bigger. I'd have to be there to see, I don't know what your experiences look like.

Also girls/women in general can be pleasant and friendly, it's in their nature to show those traits, even if there is zero romantic interest. It's coded into their survival strategy. Females survive in the world mostly through social networking and being good with people, while males survive because of skill/ability with things.

Okay, those are fair points.

Although, one thing that's supposed to be a key to success with women is that a man must always assume that a girl/woman is attracted to her to the point of being delusional. Of course, I get that if after you ask her out or ask for her contact she has made it very clear that her answer is no in some way or form then the guy has to respect that and then move on.

The point is that I thought I was supposed to always have confidence, whereby I always believe in my mind that the girl/woman I just met or just got to know is attracted to me. Women get turned on by a guy who presents himself with an attitude like that. Furthermore, I strongly believe that I have a number of attractive qualities both physically and personality wise. Therefore, I gotta believe that I do have sex appeal or that I am sex appeal. 

Edited December 31, 2022 by Hardkill

[RendHeaven]

2 hours ago, Hardkill said:

Once again, guys like you are just making blanket statements that are very unfair.

Unhealed trauma from what? Are some kind of mental health expert or psychologist?

You haven't even seen what I look or what my voice sounds like. 

Furthermore, I've already been to therapy and been on psych meds for most of my life.

I've already looked into both Owen's and Julien's vids and they still didn't cut it for me.

I've also tried many different kinds of seduction techniques from many of the best dating and seduction gurus out there and already hundreds and hundreds of girls in all different kinds of places for years.

Also, how do you explain how many guys in high school and college who are ugly or homely and have never been all that cool been able to easily hook up with and dating girls in school? Surely almost all of them didn't use any seduction techniques from a pickup/dating expert because the vast majority of men out there in general, don't.

Why do you think I've gotten so demoralized? How would you feel about your self-esteem and hopes for success with women in general if you were me?

I really don't see how fixing a couple of issues with my game is going to take my game to next level from a realistic/practical standpoint. 

Too defensive. If you are ever in disagreement, laugh it off and move on.