Maybe your depression is just vitamin deficiency

[Aiwass]

On 12/26/2022 at 2:42 PM, EugeneTheSage said:

I've had depression over the last 3 years, really weak willpower, unable to sleep, compulsive fast-food eating, masturbating, playing computer games, whereas before I was very disciplined, hard-working, and eating healthy.

I've been on a session with psychologist and she said to do a vitamin D test. I've done it today and the results are 8ng/ml. (<10 is deficiency, 10-30 insufficient, 30-100 sufficient, >100 toxicity). Holy fuck! From what I've heard from her if you have <20 it is bad, and I'm half of that. I'd go to my doctor, and ask which daily dosage he suggests.

I hope after I will raise my vitamin D levels my depression will alleviate to some extent.

POIS is a real disorder. Have you ever considered your depression to have a correlation to your masturbation habits?

The prefrontal cortex is the regulator and the master of one's willpower. 

I am happy to see you took the most appropriate approach in regard to your symptoms. Many people ignore vitamin deficiencies and write them off as bullshit advice. Vitamin D and methylcobalamin(b12) in my experience have done wonders for me.

Remember, one approach will not remove depression. Having MDD myself I can attest to that claim. It may take more than one approach to solve this stubborn problem you are experiencing(ie: Chelation therapy, ketosis, watching what you eat, caloric deficiencies, pituitary gland misdiagnosis, excluding certain vitamins, etc). 

Great job on your "taking action" mindset. We definitely need more of you on this forum! Keep up the great work.

[EugeneTheSage]

@Javfly33 Ukraine. During summer I was spending too little time outdoors wanting to work more. It backfired and now (1month ago) I'm barely able to work 2hrs daily. Now (now) I've feel pretty ok and able to work 4-5hrs daily

On 12/28/2022 at 0:00 PM, AndylizedAAY said:

 

[flowboy]

It would explain why I'm so easily depressed in winter, when the days get shorter.

It definitely plays a role I'd say.

 

Trauma also plays a role usually. But you shouldn't need to process all your trauma in order to not be depressed. That would take years.

I suspect that vitamin D helps the trauma-repression system work better, so if you don't get enough of it, shit starts to come to the surface and mess with your mood.

Of course, when that happens, it's much better to process a bit of trauma and feel good again, rather than stay depressed. I like to take it as an opportunity like that.

Regardless, give your body what it needs!

Mens sana in corpore sano.

Edited January 20, 2023 by flowboy

[EugeneTheSage]

@Aiwass of course masturbation was a major reason of my depression. Usually when I masturbate in the morning I then have 0 willpower few days after and then slowly start recovering.

However after taking vitamin D3, B-complex for a few weeks+ wearing sadhguru consecrated ring, bracelet, rudraksha mala (sacred seeds bead) I stopped masturbating. It is 3 weeks that I don't masturbate - my record for the past year. We'll se how it goes.

Also I suspect that I have adrenal fatigue. I watched endocrinologist lecture and he said that if you have low energy levels in the morning and in the evening you are hyperactive, can't fall asleep - these are signs of adrenal glands underperformance.

I also probably have iron deficiency

I went to endocrinologist she confirmed these theories. I'll go pass a lot of blood tests tomorrow and do ultrasonic imagery at 03 Feb and we'll see what's going on

 

Edited January 23, 2023 by EugeneTheSage

[EugeneTheSage]

Update: I've also done other hormone and mineral blood tests. Hormones, including thyroid hormones and cortisol, are OK. Ferritin (iron) is very low: 40 ng/ml whereas it should be 75 ng/ml (the exact amount as my bodyweight is).

About vitamin D. After realizing that I have very low vitamin D levels (8 ng/ml, whereas the optimal level, is 50-70 ng/ml) I've asked my 'family doctor' (it is a general physician in Ukraine, usually not very competent)  who sends you to other specialists if unable to diagnose himself) how much do I need to take daily to restore deficiency.

She said I should take 4000 IU.

Then in an endocrinologist lecture on youtube, I heard that everybody should take 5000 IU (he didn't tell if we should take it during summer also because we all have little sun exposure.

Today, an endocrinologist told to me that I should take 20 000 IU daily for a month and then once in 2 days (10 000 IU daily) for another month!

Make sure your doctor is competent enough - I could have been taking these pity 4000 IU and wondering why I don't have results.

On the youtube lecture of endocrinologist, I've also heard that we all need to constantly take magnesium, iodine, vitamin D, and B vitamins because we all are under stress and we constantly lose a lot of these minerals/vitamins. By the way, some of them, for example, iodine, vitamins B are water soluble so they don't accumulate in the body well - the excess taken by mouth is removed through the urine.

I also watched a webinar of a Ukrainian functional medicine doctor and she said the following order for restoring health:

1. Restoring mucous membranes of the stomach, esophagus, intestines
2. Working on gallstones, achieving the state of fluid bile. If bile is produced properly then it is 'sanitizing' the intestines and naturally weakens the parasites (including unproductive bacteria, candida, and low-grade viruses). for this milk thistle oil and other methods
3. help digestion: eat bitter foods: arugula etc.
4. liver cleanses (can't do it before bile is fluid enough)
5. Anti-parasite protocols (including candida, unproductive bacteria, and viruses)
6. lymph-drainage exercises

Don't just believe what I've said - do your own research - I didn't go into nuances here.

Edited February 6, 2023 by EugeneTheSage

[supremeyingyang]

Will you do another test at the end of winter? I do one in one week and I think I'll do it to see what happened when I changed my diet.

Edited February 6, 2023 by supremeyingyang

[EugeneTheSage]

@supremeyingyang i will do it in 3 months. Beware. Please understand that you can't measure something without influencing the parameter you are trying to measure - by doing blood test every week you'll lower you iron levels.

 

[Emrie]

First time I'm seeing this thread. Very interesting, seems promising. I've done some research on depression and I've heard some psychiatrists start to acknowledge that depression is not only mental but there's also a physiological component.

So, it's great to hear you're handling that Vitamin D.

[supremeyingyang]

@EugeneTheSage

yes, I'll plan to do it twice a year for the first year and depending on the results every few years

that reminds on that guy who donated 5 times blood in one day... not good lol

[tezk]

You're probably deficient in a whole bunch of other nutrients. I would also give B-complex a go. When I had my b12 tested, it did not indicate that I had any severe deficiency. But once I began supplementing with a B-complex, it was honestly a game changer for my mood, clarity, etc.

[EugeneTheSage]

@tezk I've also done a vitamin b12 test and I also don't have big deficiency, just lower than it should be. I'm taking b-complex right now

[EugeneTheSage]

@supremeyingyang[couldn't delete the tag]

How do I feel now:

Much more focused, have much better memory. I meditate much deeper, I am much more centered in the present moment. I think vitamin D3, magnesium, iron, vit B-complex contributed to these results

I still fill pressure in my temples and sinuses though.

I also don't want sugary food anymore! That's huge. No craving at all! I think triphala water contributed to it. I've started with 1/4 of teaspoon of triphala in 200ml of tepid water and slowly increased to the 1teaspoon per 200ml of water over the course of 2 weeks. I drink it 40mins before bedtime.

Maybe it was something different, I take a lot of things, but I don't see what other thing could possibly helped this.

Triphala cleanses your intestine tract.

I also take 600mg N-AcetylCysteine (NAC) twice per day. It is a powerful hepatoprotector which restores liver deposits od Glutatione - powerful antioxidant.

I'l see how it affects me. I think the abovementioned results are partially caused by it.

Edited March 7, 2023 by EugeneTheSage

[supremeyingyang]

@EugeneTheSage

awww:3

14 minutes ago, EugeneTheSage said:

Much more focused, have much better memory. I meditate much deeper, I am much more centered in the present moment. I think vitamin D3, magnesium, iron, vit B-complex contributed to these results

I still fill pressure in my temples and sinuses though.

I also don't want sugary food anymore! That's huge. No craving at all! I think triphala water contributed to it. I've started with 1/4 of teaspoon of triphala in 200ml of tepid water and slowly increased to the 1teaspoon per 200ml of water over the course of 2 weeks. I drink it 40mins before bedtime.

Maybe it was something different, I take a lot of things, but I don't see what other thing could possibly helped this.

Triphala cleanses your intestine tract.

I also take 600mg N-AcetylCysteine (NAC) twice per day. It is a powerful hepatoprotector which restores liver deposits od Glutatione - powerful antioxidant.

I'l see how it affects me. I think the abovementioned results are partially caused by it.

so overall you are doing pretty good, right?

Edited March 7, 2023 by supremeyingyang
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[EugeneTheSage]

@supremeyingyang @supremeyingyang [can't delete tags]

Healthwise yes, much better. Stopping eating sugar by itself improved my feeling.

Except ear ring and inflammation in my head cavities. To start dealing with that problem I'd need to gather some money.

Besides health problems there is social media and PMO addiction that puts cap on me. I wish there would be some triphala for these issues