The AI ChatGPT Writes an Upanishad

[bmcnicho]

https://typefully.com/portalintojamie/onUwvMA

It might be a little off on the specific details, but there’s a surprising amount of genuine wisdom here.  These neural nets are progressing quickly, this model is based on GPT 3.5 by OpenAI, and GPT 4 is expected to be much more advanced and will be released sometime next year. I see both immense potential and immense danger in these technologies

Edited December 18, 2022 by bmcnicho

[Holykael]

It's not really a neural net. That's just the story. It's god that generates the output. There is no such thing as computation, it's all consciousness 

[Osaid]

1 hour ago, Holykael said:

It's not really a neural net. That's just the story. It's god that generates the output.

God can be a story.

The idea that God is generating the output, is also a story.

Nothing wrong with stories.

[Holykael]

58 minutes ago, Osaid said:

God can be a story.

The idea that God is generating the output, is also a story.

Nothing wrong with stories.

It's not a story. It's a fact. God generates everything. There is only god. Only god is. You are god. Just like brains don't do anything. Neural nets don't exist.

Edited December 18, 2022 by Holykael

[iboughtleosbooklist]

@Holykael I find the Holykael partition of God to be rather refreshing. Straightforward and to the point, no bs, although a little negative, but I can get on board with hating on existence as it does suck 90% of the time. I really hope Leo is right about being able to bathe in infinite bliss once this life is over. If infinite love doesn't exist that's got to be the cruelest joke ever. Maybe you can have it but it gets old really quick, maybe existence is that terrible. I'm at the point where the best part of my day is bedtime. At least God can forget it's God, but that's where all the suffering takes place. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Razard86]

2 hours ago, Holykael said:

It's not a story. It's a fact. God generates everything. There is only god. Only god is. You are god. Just like brains don't do anything. Neural nets don't exist.

Facts are stories, everything is a story. God is a story that tells itself a story. God doesn't have to do anything. 

[Razard86]

1 hour ago, iboughtleosbooklist said:

@Holykael I find the Holykael partition of God to be rather refreshing. Straightforward and to the point, no bs, although a little negative, but I can get on board with hating on existence as it does suck 90% of the time. I really hope Leo is right about being able to bathe in infinite bliss once this life is over. If infinite love doesn't exist that's got to be the cruelest joke ever. Maybe you can have it but it gets old really quick, maybe existence is that terrible. I'm at the point where the best part of my day is bedtime. At least God can forget it's God, but that's where all the suffering takes place. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

If your life sucks 90% how in the world are you even on here. You should be screaming bloody murder or something much worse. 90%? Also stop hoping Leo is right and find out for yourself. And if you think Holykael speaks no bs, then you want to live in a nightmare which is certainly your choice since you choose to give your authority away to him.

[Osaid]

56 minutes ago, Holykael said:

Neural nets don't exist.

They do exist, as imagination. Sometimes it can even exist as something more visible and tangible. Consciousness can shapeshift.

You're clinging to a state of consciousness which doesn't imagine stories, because you believe in the story that imagination is "unreal" or "invalid" or "less real" than the rest of reality. All of reality is real. You are still subtly partitioning God and placing certain aspects of it in hierarchies.

56 minutes ago, Holykael said:

It's not a story. It's a fact. God generates everything. There is only god. Only god is. You are god.

If God generates everything, and God is everything, then stories and imagination are a part of everything as well.

If you were aware of what you are saying, you would realize that imagining neural networks is how God generates things, because a neural network is God. God can imagine any sort of generation it wants. It can stop imagining things that generate it, as well. It doesn't really need a generation process in order to exist, unless you imagine it.

 

 

 

 

 

[Holykael]

2 hours ago, Osaid said:

They do exist, as imagination. Sometimes it can even exist as something more visible and tangible. Consciousness can shapeshift.

You're clinging to a state of consciousness which doesn't imagine stories, because you believe in the story that imagination is "unreal" or "invalid" or "less real" than the rest of reality. All of reality is real. You are still subtly partitioning God and placing certain aspects of it in hierarchies.

If God generates everything, and God is everything, then stories and imagination are a part of everything as well.

If you were aware of what you are saying, you would realize that imagining neural networks is how God generates things, because a neural network is God. God can imagine any sort of generation it wants. It can stop imagining things that generate it, as well. It doesn't really need a generation process in order to exist, unless you imagine it.

 

 

 

 

 

God isn't generating the text of the neural net through an imagined neural net. God is generating the text directly. There is no neural net. Just like your thoughts aren't thought in a brain, the brain is just a story, it is unreal. Consciousness is direct, there are no intermediaries and it's all the same consciousness generating even this dialogue between us.

Edited December 18, 2022 by Holykael

[Osaid]

9 hours ago, Holykael said:

the brain is just a story, it is unreal

Stories are real, they exist as stories. You are making a distinction that says one part of reality is less real than the other.

In reality, you don't believe in your own definition of God, which is that God is everything. If you did, you would realize that imagination and stories are all equally God, and thus equally real. One part of reality can't be less real than the other.

You can't deny that you do experience imagination and stories, so it is some sort of phenomena that is occurring in your experience, even though you might shun it away.

There is of course a difference between being conscious that something is a story, and being unconscious of the fact that something is a story. For example, a child who believes in Santa as a physical entity vs a parent who is aware that Santa is an imagined holiday mascot. They are both imagining Santa, but the latter has recontextualized it to see that it is imaginary, whereas the former hasn't become aware of that yet.