Why Atheists Ultimately Believe In God

[Razard86]

Atheists will tell you that they don't believe in God. This is actually incorrect!!! But they are not even aware of this which is funny!!! If you ask an atheist or anyone who believe in the materialist model of reality how they are able to experience this reality they will tell you because of their human brain. As a result this means they believe their brain is generating reality. Even when evidence persists that this is not the case they use terms like "the hard problem of consciousness" or "consciousness is emergent phenomena" which is their refusal to see what is and wanting to hold on to the human brain as the generator of reality. 

If they could drop their attachment to the brain as a generator then consciousness wouldn't be emerging from the brain, or be considered a hard problem. Now why is this the case? Because to an Atheist the human brain is God!!! Now paradoxically the human brain is God like everything else in reality is, but to them NOO!!!!! The Human brain ALONE is god, and science is the religion of the human brain!!! This is why they worship science, and defend it like any fundamentalist of any religion!! So yes Atheist do believe in God, they believe in God in the form of the human brain!!!

Edited December 15, 2022 by Razard86

[Someone here]

@Razard86 exactly! 

What if consciousness has nothing to do with the brain?

What if quantum theory and relativity amount to a load of malarkey?

I think that these questions are roughly comparable, and that the answer is the same in the two cases:

It’s back to the drawing board!

neuroscience has no explanation of consciousness. Nor will they ever have .because they are tackling it from the wrong  paradigm. So far, they really can’t.

They speculate. They philosophize. They conjecture. But they don’t explain.

Mainly because they still don’t have a model (descriptive or constructive) of what consciousness is. What exists is several speculative philosophical arguments, not too different from the arguments used to define beauty.

[LastThursday]

To oppose something you have to acknowledge it first.

Although, I do think you're conflating atheist with scientist/materialist, they're two separate things. Scientists can and do believe in God. Scientists in the Vatican do astronomy for example:

 

[AlterEgo]

@Razard86 Also... a hardcore atheist thinks about God all the time.  They post on message boards, think of counters to other's beliefs, always debating and condemning.  If you really didn't believe in God, why would you make the effort to make others wrong?  What you TRULY believe, you don't need to convince others of. 

 

Like when a closet homosexual constantly bashes on homosexuality.

[Mafortu]

when atheist say they dont believe in god, they obviously mean the biblical cis male in the sky 

whether you call God reality, or consciousness, or infinite imagination.. that's just a silly semantics battle

[Razard86]

On 12/15/2022 at 10:36 AM, LastThursday said:

To oppose something you have to acknowledge it first.

Although, I do think you're conflating atheist with scientist/materialist, they're two separate things. Scientists can and do believe in God. Scientists in the Vatican do astronomy for example:

 

How can I be conflating...when I only mentioned atheists? I never said all scientists were atheists. I specifically only called out atheists. Atheists like to use science as their form of a religion and the brain as their God. That's the only premise I am presenting.

Notice....you interpreted what I said a certain a way then stated I conflated the two....could it be...that you conflated the two instead? Reread what I wrote.

On 12/15/2022 at 9:47 AM, Someone here said:

@Razard86 exactly! 

What if consciousness has nothing to do with the brain?

What if quantum theory and relativity amount to a load of malarkey?

I think that these questions are roughly comparable, and that the answer is the same in the two cases:

It’s back to the drawing board!

neuroscience has no explanation of consciousness. Nor will they ever have .because they are tackling it from the wrong  paradigm. So far, they really can’t.

They speculate. They philosophize. They conjecture. But they don’t explain.

Mainly because they still don’t have a model (descriptive or constructive) of what consciousness is. What exists is several speculative philosophical arguments, not too different from the arguments used to define beauty.

I agree, the funny thing is there is a scientist who believes he can uses math to define beauty.

 

4 hours ago, Mafortu said:

when atheist say they dont believe in god, they obviously mean the biblical cis male in the sky 

whether you call God reality, or consciousness, or infinite imagination.. that's just a silly semantics battle

What you describe is an agnostic. An atheist does not believe in any type of God. They believe that once death comes that's it for all eternity. A lot of them also believe in the big bang and that all this just randomly happened. If you really drill down a lot of their belief systems....they can't even come up with a logical basis yet they love calling those who believe in religion illogical.

[PenguinPablo]

4 hours ago, Mafortu said:

when atheist say they dont believe in god, they obviously mean the biblical cis male in the sky 

whether you call God reality, or consciousness, or infinite imagination.. that's just a silly semantics battle

yes... but ultimately the atheist perspective is too limited in its ability to see the bigger picture, limited in creativity, so it straw mans GOD as a mean guy in the sky. The atheist perspective conceals its lack of intelligence with a veil of sophistication => but is actually only looking at the possibility of GOD through a very narrow, black and white lens. 

[integral]

This would make for a great storyline in a game. ??