Set children free

[Kksd74628]

@Leo Gura

19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It would be nice to have a sort of maturity exam which detemrines when you officially become "an adult". For some it would happen at 16, for others it would happen at 35.

I mean yeah, if that could really work then whatever, but as I said I just believe that conscious leadership from parents is the key to the main problem we had here. It would be really informative from you to make the conscious leadership video that you talked about soon. I've been waiting it .

PS. check PM wink wink.

[John Paul]

@Kksd74628 so you’d rather bank on marketing high consciousness parenting learning material to parents though the internet or mail and flyers and have them half heartedly integrate the material alongside other mainstream parenting advice and “try their best” instead of legally empower people who are growing up by creating ways for them to become independent and successful earlier while they still have more creative power and health?

[Kksd74628]

@John Paul

I don't just believe in advantages of becoming independent as fast as possible. If you have problems with being okay human being with your parents and getting along with them, I don't think you are ready to be so called "independent" yet. We don't need any mails or flayers, because as I tried to explain; we are constantly developing as humans and therefore as parents too, so we don't need to rush things. Spiritual people usually seek for fast solutions, but you should understand that society as a whole develops so so so much slower than individual being on his/her journey, so we have to learn to be patient with it.

[John Paul]

@Kksd74628 I really applaud your parents and the community you grew up in. Bravo to them.

[Kksd74628]

@John Paul

Just now, John Paul said:

I really applaud your parents and the community you grew up in. Bravo to them.

wdum?

[John Paul]

30 minutes ago, Kksd74628 said:

If you have problems with being okay human being with your parents and getting along with them, I don't think you are ready to be so called "independent"

I really don’t think you met anyone with bad parents… parents who smoke meth, yell all the time, are overly controlling, super immature, emotionally stunted etc. you seem to think that a parent is automatically like stage turquoise or something-no.

Edited December 15, 2022 by John Paul

[Kksd74628]

@John Paul

That's not what I said. I know that there are parents with bad behaviours, but to keep it simple most of the parents are somewhere "normal" and healthy environment for children to grow. When we are talking about sociological things we have to focus to the big picture and not to exceptions. If parents are smoking meth or being extremely bad image to their children then that again is another issue we shouldn't we focussing before getting the basics of previous dialogue done. Wouldn't you agree that children should be focussing their time to studying, planning their life and enjoying the youth instead of going to live adult life as early as the age 15?

Edited December 15, 2022 by Kksd74628

[John Paul]

@Kksd74628 they can do those things while being independent if they choose to.

im not saying they should be forced to, just that they should be able to have more options. If I was the president I would run on reorganizing the entire country to empower young people’s choices.

[Kksd74628]

@John Paul

1 minute ago, John Paul said:

If I was the president I would run on reorganizing the entire country to empower young people’s choices.

You'd literally fuck the whole country then, gg wp. I am not saying that having different options is bad though, but the matter of thing just is that you shouldn't let people have too much control if they didn't learn the maturity/responsibility before that. I don't know what specifically you are having on your mind when you approach this conversation, but don't you see any dangers in handing lots of control to immature children. As I've said millions of times, when you just have good parents they support your growth and lead you well and that's how the thing just should be. Don't you understand that freedom comes with lots of dangers and I am not even over-exaggerating now. 

[John Paul]

@Kksd74628 I’m not suggesting giving them power over others.. just power over themselves due to increased opportunities… 

[Kksd74628]

@John Paul

Teens nowadays already have too many rights in comparison to their duties. If I am giving you free housing, food and life coaching I assume to have some type of control over you or that I get something else in a return. I don't know if things in florida are so much different from finland, but I don't just see what you try to show as a problem at all. I guess we can't go forward in the conversation if you can't open your mind to bigger picture thinking where you should see that maybe you had bad parents, but that doesn't mean that all of us have. I see what you say just as a shadow from your past. Your approach is just fighting fire with fire. We should just get better connection between parents and their children. You agree?

[John Paul]

@Kksd74628 yes. I agree. Thank you for your contribution.

[lisindel]

On 12/15/2022 at 9:21 AM, John Paul said:

@Kksd74628 they can do those things while being independent if they choose to.

im not saying they should be forced to, just that they should be able to have more options. If I was the president I would run on reorganizing the entire country to empower young people’s choices.

Cool idea.