Marijuana

[eggopm3]

30 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

In general, I don't know how it works for men but weed is like viagra for women, it makes sexual activities much more pleasurable.

It's the same for men I can assure you. Really good weed can have me borderline orgasming with no external stimulation whatsoever, and generates tons of incredible sexual fantasies if I allow my mind go in that direction.

19 minutes ago, kylan11 said:

Keep in mind that the effects vary greatly between individuals. I never experienced what you're talking about, but I would agree that generally it's much easier to go into paranoia and anxiety with weed (and especially edibles) than it is with classical psychedelics.

Plus it's addictive and really screws with your short-term memory, even if used occasionally. Overall I'd say it's a pretty mediocre drug.

Since it's so mild it works well for relaxing after a stressful day or for a quick burst of creativity, but I don't think it's worth the downsides.

I agree it can be addictive, but I've never found it's reputation for short term memory loss to be all that accurate tbh. The only memory-related problem I get from consuming weed is that it makes it difficult to recall dreams (supposedly it reduces REM sleep), and I like to dream quite a bit so that's often a motivation for moderation. And I dont think it's mild at all. A bowl of flower reliably rockets me into tremendously blissful high-consciousness states.

yes of course it's different for everyone (i think  there is some research out there suggesting that there is a genetic component to how it affects people differently). Leo says he vapes it for instance, and great for him if that's what works. but IME the high from vaping weed is garbage, inferior to all other ROIs I've tried by a significant margin. And I feel immediate acute irritation in my mouth and throat every time I vape weed which just feels like it's asking for trouble in the long run.

The one ROI I have basically no experience with is dabbing, anyone willing to give their thoughts on how that compares?

Edited December 15, 2022 by eggopm3

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, kylan11 said:

Yea, I've noticed that weed in any form (actually, any psychoactive substance including alcohol) got way better, stronger and more profound for me since I've had psychedelic-induced awakenings, it seems to be somewhat of a common thing. My guess is that you become much more sensitive and observant to changes in your perception and consciousness, and feel more free and open minded to explore that particular state of being. Which only gets you into even deeper states.

Not nearly to the extent that you're talking about, though, that's truly fucking amazing dude.

I am just extremely sensitive to all psychedelics.

[Thought Art]

Everybody must get stonnnned 

 

[Alex_R]

some people says that when thc is cooked as brownies,etc the molecule changes and gets psycoactive effects, but i never tested myself

 

But what is true is that certain substances like Caffeine and modafinil that are not psycodelics can Increase the level of conciousness to the point where u will be able to feel the typical "no self" awakening or some of those states like if you were taking small doses of lsd or mushrooms

[Thought Art]

@Alex_R YeH, that’s well known about cooking it actually. Lots of products out there.

[Carl-Richard]

If you want to be very technical about it, the term "psychedelic" is reserved to the serotonergic psychedelics, but some of the effects can be experienced through other receptor systems as well, as there is sometimes significant overlap, and that certainly applies to the cannabinoid system.

Think about it this way: cannabinoids are involved in regulating certain habits like eating, which means they're naturally released during these activities. Now, what happens at the dinner table with say your family? As everybody takes the first bite of their food, everybody calms down — maybe it's even quiet for a while — and after that, you're in a better mood and more talkative. So there is a calming and centering effect, and an increase in mood and a dropping of social inhibitions (a "boundary dissolving" effect).

Also, eating food is a very sensual activity, so there is some sharpening of the senses going on. If you've ever tried eating while in severe cannabis withdrawal, you'll know exactly what I mean. Even if you're eating the best food in the world, it tastes, smells and looks disgusting, and eating it becomes hard work. So there is a sharpening (or maybe an "augmenting") of the senses going on, but not in a fight-or-flight kind of way, as it's happening in parallel with the calming and boundary dissolving effect. That produces something akin to a psychedelic effect.

Edited December 16, 2022 by Carl-Richard

[Tyler Robinson]

Marijuana is very bad for health. 

[TheAlchemist]

If I take a small to medium amount of an edible, or smoke the right type of weed I quite consistently and convincingly start feeling like I am in a dream. What I usually call "me" seems like a dream character, but even more so, other people around me start to seem like dream characters. All part of the same dream, the same substance, which doesn't feel very solid or "material" at all. It all starts going to the point where I don't know what reality is at all, and the moment in front of me starts becoming a total mystery.

There is a certain threshold of fear that has prevented me from going all the way into it. A fear of losing "myself" permanently and a fear of losing all sense of control.

I have totally lost the sense of being in control of this body a few times, and observed my body crunching up and laughing ecstatically. So in those kinds of states, having a trip sitter might be a very good idea. 

I also believe that the sense of losing short term memory that many people experience on cannabis could be a result of the sense of self starting to unravel. Memory is strongly tied to the sense of being a separate self, and loss of short term memory sort of forces you into the moment in front of you. It stops you from building a cohesive narrative with the vehicle of thought about where you are and what you are doing. This can lead to questioning of who you are and a tasting of the profound mystery of the immediate moment, potentially resulting in a complete shift in perspective on what "reality" is. 

 

Edited December 16, 2022 by TheAlchemist

[Tyler Robinson]

I'm seen people being overly sensitive after taking weed. It does something to them. Almost bordering on paranoia. It can be dangerous even if you don't see short term effects or tend to tolerate it. I've seen people changing their personalities - from someone who was hyper chill to someone who felt fearful, sensitive, moody, depressed, paranoia or excessive happy. It has that effect on your mind and mood. 

 

[Carl-Richard]

5 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

I'm seen people being overly sensitive after taking weed. It does something to them. Almost bordering on paranoia. It can be dangerous even if you don't see short term effects or tend to tolerate it. I've seen people changing their personalities - from someone who was hyper chill to someone who felt fearful, sensitive, moody, depressed, paranoia or excessive happy. It has that effect on your mind and mood. 

The most annoying thing about hanging out with a group of stoned people is not just how paranoid they are about normal scenarios, but how low volume they talk 

[inFlow]

18 hours ago, kylan11 said:

Keep in mind that the effects vary greatly between individuals. I never experienced what you're talking about, but I would agree that generally it's much easier to go into paranoia and anxiety with edibles than it is with classical psychedelics.

 

I can say that my body too gets cold from smoking weed. And thus shivers is an action which creates thoughts which create emotions = bad trip. I remember when I smoked a blunt in summer where it was +32C (+90F) and I was fucking cold shivering to the point where I thought I was gonna die LOL. I no longer consume it for other reasons as it misplaces your inner life-force energies.

[CultivateLove]

21 hours ago, eggopm3 said:

And I feel immediate acute irritation in my mouth and throat every time I vape weed which just feels like it's asking for trouble in the long run.

Then you did something wrong, when I tried it there was literally zero sensation, no burning, no taste, no smell, just the cleanest, clearest high I've ever had from mama ganja.

[eggopm3]

10 minutes ago, CultivateLove said:

Then you did something wrong, when I tried it there was literally zero sensation, no burning, no taste, no smell, just the cleanest, clearest high I've ever had from mama ganja.

I thought I was doing something wrong for the longest time too. But I've tried multiple different methods of vaping by this point and the same thing always happens. It seems fine at first, but after a few vape sessions I can feel the irritation getting worse and worse. I like to sing a lot and I can feel it especially settling on my voice box making me sound really phlegmy, that's a big turn off. And the effects linger for like a week after I stop.

Started with disposable vapes, and wasn't too surprised that those were bad (though all of these were purchased legally in Canada so I'm not getting fake shit like still exist in some places), but maybe it's low quality materials. Tried a 510 distillate cart, ok maybe it's low quality vape juice or the vape pen is bad. So I got a yocan to use, everyone recommends those, but it still happens. I see online that people recommend using much lower temps for better smoother hits and maybe it's just that distillate sucks and I should get higher quality stuff. So I got a few different brands of live resin carts and turned the voltage on the yocan way down. But no matter what settings I use it still happens even with the live resin. Long hits, short hits doesn't make a difference. OK then, screw carts entirely let's try a dry herb vape, surely that will give me the purest highest quality vaping. So I try one of those davinci vape devices to use with flower, and STILL it's irritating to my throat and mouth.

There are a few things I havent tried, like people talk about those volcano vaporizers being good (too expensive, but if I had a friend with one I'd try it) or pulling the vapour through water with a bong contraption, but I'm kinda sick of trying out different setups (and wasting money) only to be disappointed every time. I can only ignore my body's signals of "stop doing this" for so long.

Never at any point did the high from any of these methods come close to matching the high from combustion. It's not a terrible high all things considered, I agree that it does have a "clean and clear" quality to it and I prefer it to edibles by a large margin, and I wouldn't mind it as an alternative to smoking if it wasn't for the physical side effects it gives me. however what I really am looking for from cannabis is the acceleration of my mental processes that allows my mind to reach personal insights and deepen my emotional connections. And vaping never seems to press that button in my mind in any significant way. it's a decent mood lift, some heightened senses and that's about the extent of it. I can pretty reliably reach mystical states on cannabis, but it's always been via combustion, never happens with vaping.

What really cinched the deal for me was when I opened up one of the live resin carts, and poured a bit of it into a bowl and combusted that as an experiment to see if it would be different than using the cart the intended way and BOOM instantly back to that fantastic high, it was like smoking a bowl of kief or hash. If using it "wrong" is so much better then I don't want to be right, lmao. Dumped the rest of the cart out and mixed it with some bud to make infused flower and it was excellent.

[Bob Seeker]

I simply become a different consciousness on weed edibles, giving me access to insights and perspectives inaccessible to the perspective of "me" in sober state. The problem I have is it gives me an incomplete awakening. I see the illusory nature of reality, but don't wake up the the Love or the completeness of God so it can seem like reality is an unfriendly place. it is way too heady and thought loopy to the point where it tires me out. I took Delta 8 and I had the most insane though patterns that deconstructed my reality and left me feeling like I was being born into unlimited different realities all at once and each one felt completely meaningless because they were each trapped in eternal loneliness and meaninglessness because I was the only real consciousness. It was horrifying and felt like eternal doom. I will avoid Delta 8 and prefer Delta 9 because of this. 

[JayT79]

I had recently took a drop of cbd & thc underneath my tongue. Man, I had a realization that we are made of nothing, like nothing. It kinda startled me. In the process of seeing it visually painted in my mind, I had to tell my mind.."wait a minute, rewind that back again" then that's when it was clear, my mouth dropped open. Couldn't believe it. I've could've realized more truth but my ego wouldn't allow it, I fought it off.

[Thought Art]

The problem I have with weed after not smoking for 5 months is... It saps your ability to feel pleasure. People don't talk about this.  I didn't believe it until I read a Mantak Chia book "Cosmic Nutrition" then... I tried it over the last few months and I think there is truth to it. 

It can make you feel blissful, have new deep insights sure.

But, it also has a really dark sight: foggy thoughts, lazy, paranoid, music doesn't sound as good. 

Edited December 17, 2022 by Thought Art

[Bob Seeker]

@Thought Art makes sense if you used it chronically. I think it should be used like a psychedelic. Once in a while and to contemplate.

Personally I become so philosophical on weed I never do it except when i seriously need a perspective shift. It is too taxing, kind of like a big trip.

[BipolarGrowth]

On 12/15/2022 at 1:24 PM, Leo Gura said:

I vape it and it's as strong as DMT for me.

Has this reduced your use of other psychedelics? About a year and a half to two years ago this same switch happened for me with THC. It became at least as strong as other psychedelics had been, but it was far more sustainable and convenient to use often. So I basically stopped using other psychedelics almost entirely because the risks were higher and reward was equal or even less. 
 

To me it seems like the amount of hours spent in intensely high states of consciousness is the most important factor for deep awakening. THC becoming ultra potent at low doses made the process a cake walk compared to before. 

[John Paul]

Why’d they delete my comment about smoking dabs and then working at papa johns in high school?

[Yimpa]

If your intention is aligned with Truth, then is certainly can and will be.