Marijuana

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura why are you like this?

[Oppositionless]

it is quite psychedelic. which is why you really don't want to get addicted to it. don't want to live in that state all the time it makes it hard to appreciate your natural state. weed can mess you up psychologically especially if you're spiritually energetically sensitive

Edited December 14, 2022 by Oppositionless

[Thought Art]

@Oppositionless True. Being stoned all the time isn’t as great as it seems to an immature stoner. 
 

Being sober is very rich and pleasurable 

[Space]

On 13/12/2022 at 11:14 AM, Adei said:

Is marijuana a psychedelic?

It definitely is if you've had prior breakthroughs with 5-MeO-DMT. 

[Oppositionless]

@Thought Art I had some deep awakenings with weed but I eventually had to stop because I started developing an addiction

[Leo Gura]

51 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Leo Gura why are you like this?

Cause I'm awesome! 

I don't even need psychedelics any more, I can just take a few droplets of THC under the tongue and I'm walking around like a hyper-intelligent alien saint.

2 drops of THC produce a higher state of mind than a 2 week meditation retreat.

Edited December 14, 2022 by Leo Gura

[eggopm3]

Weed definitely changed for me after I started taking "normal" psychedelics, becoming way more consciousness enhancing than it had been prior. There's also a period of up to a few days after a big trip where weed's effects are enhanced significantly. My fav time to smoke it is the next day after an acid trip. it can also pull me out of a negative state if i'm spiraling into a bad place and smoke a bit while tripping.

I agree it's excellent for trauma work. It's helped me work through a lot of my personal shit. I get tons of personal insights that are relevant to my life on weed, as opposed to lsd and mushrooms which give me plenty of insights too of course but more on a cosmic level that's less immediately applicable to my life situation and those are much harder to "bring back" in a coherent way than with weed, where I can remember most of what I come up with pretty easily once sober again.

And the more gradual tolerance buildup means that you can do it more often than LSD or mushrooms. which while not always being a good thing (habit forming) sometimes that is exactly what you're looking for. Keeps the spiritual channels open for as long as you want.

I do find however that weed makes me extremely horny sometimes. Which I wouldn't mind if I had a suitable partner, but I don't. So it can pull me into jerking off a bunch sometimes which is fun sure, but obviously not so productive. Gotta be careful of that.

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura  That’s Cray

[inFlow]

11 hours ago, John Paul said:

Try having sex on it if you have a partner, or just masturbate.

What kind of advice is this? Don't you understand the problems of having peak dopamine experiences?

[kylan11]

There's a major difference to be made here between smoking cannabis and ingesting it thru edibles.

I was a heavy weed user, at my lowest I was smoking like 10 joints a day, yet when I made cannabis cookies I got so high it became a full-on psychedelic experience. Like a mild mushroom trip with somewhat of a different flavour.

There's a scientific explaination too: THC processing by the liver converts it to another, much stronger chemical psychoactive compound. I've heard Joe Rogan mention this as well.

Yes, you're not gonna "trip" by smoking a blunt, but try ingesting that same amount of weed. Let me know how it goes.

[Ramu]

@Leo Gura yes its amazing stuff.  If I go more than 3 to 4 days of not smoking ganja, then take two to three good puffs of chronic, it's instant God Mode.

[Ramu]

When I smoke Mary Jane after a brief absence a number of things happen:

1.  I lose my head (I actually  don't really have one.  The Headless Way is a great website by the way...very good for non mainstream spirituality).

2.  I realize I'm the Only One

 

3.  I realize I'm doing it ALL

 

4.  I realize I'm responsible  for EVERYTHING.   Because I'm making it all happen.

[Thought Art]

When I smoke I turn into a lizard with an itchy tail 

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, kylan11 said:

There's a major difference to be made here between smoking cannabis and ingesting it thru edibles.

I was a heavy weed user, at my lowest I was smoking like 10 joints a day, yet when I made cannabis cookies I got so high it became a full-on psychedelic experience. Like a mild mushroom trip with somewhat of a different flavour.

There's a scientific explaination too: THC processing by the liver converts it to another, much stronger chemical psychoactive compound. I've heard Joe Rogan mention this as well.

Yes, you're not gonna "trip" by smoking a blunt, but try ingesting that same amount of weed. Let me know how it goes.

I vape it and it's as strong as DMT for me.

[Michal__]

If I question things while after a single puff of weed I feel like I have extra mini-alien (it's pretty strong, I call it "mini" because I can see how there'd be many times more interesting experiences) intelligence that can answer anything I ask it.

It was this potent for me even one of the first times I used when I had zero experience with other psychadelics.

I can also get panaromic vision (a very strong unmistakable state) very easily on weed.

Edited December 15, 2022 by Michal__

[kylan11]

45 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I vape it and it's as strong as DMT for me.

Yea, I've noticed that weed in any form (actually, any psychoactive substance including alcohol) got way better, stronger and more profound for me since I've had psychedelic-induced awakenings, it seems to be somewhat of a common thing. My guess is that you become much more sensitive and observant to changes in your perception and consciousness, and feel more free and open minded to explore that particular state of being. Which only gets you into even deeper states.

Not nearly to the extent that you're talking about, though, that's truly fucking amazing dude.

Edited December 15, 2022 by kylan11

[John Paul]

11 hours ago, inFlow said:

What kind of advice is this? Don't you understand the problems of having peak dopamine experiences?

No. Having sex is good for the body and mind and can build a deeper relationship. Wake up, dummy

[eggopm3]

10 hours ago, kylan11 said:

There's a major difference to be made here between smoking cannabis and ingesting it thru edibles.

I was a heavy weed user, at my lowest I was smoking like 10 joints a day, yet when I made cannabis cookies I got so high it became a full-on psychedelic experience. Like a mild mushroom trip with somewhat of a different flavour.

There's a scientific explaination too: THC processing by the liver converts it to another, much stronger chemical psychoactive compound. I've heard Joe Rogan mention this as well.

Yes, you're not gonna "trip" by smoking a blunt, but try ingesting that same amount of weed. Let me know how it goes.

Edibles (11-ho-thc) have a horrendous body load. It's quite psychedelic sure, but only if you want a trip through hell. For me they screw with my body's temperature regulation and I get chills that go on for hours and I end up sitting in a hot shower spending the whole time wishing I was sober. Taking tincture sublingually generally bypasses the liver conversion so if I consume it orally I vastly prefer that.

Edited December 15, 2022 by eggopm3

[John Paul]

@Lila9 wanna smoke?

[kylan11]

7 minutes ago, eggopm3 said:

Edibles (11-ho-thc) have a horrendous body load. It's quite psychedelic sure, but only if you want a trip through hell. For me they screw with my body's temperature regulation and I get chills that go on for hours and I need to sit in a hot shower in a fetal position spending the whole time wishing I was sober. Taking tincture sublingually generally bypasses the liver conversion so if I consume it orally I vastly prefer that.

Keep in mind that the effects vary greatly between individuals. I never experienced what you're talking about, but I would agree that generally it's much easier to go into paranoia and anxiety with edibles than it is with classical psychedelics.

Plus it's psychologically addictive and really screws with your short-term memory, even if used occasionally. Overall I'd say it's a pretty mediocre drug.

Since it's so mild it works well for relaxing after a stressful day or for a quick burst of creativity, but I don't think it's worth the downsides.

Edited December 15, 2022 by kylan11