"Tateism" vs Buddhism

[hyruga]

Just view 

Gary vaynerchuk, Ed mylett content if you want more stage green and orange content, yet not missing out on the intensity.

 

 

 

[Danioover9000]

@RedLine

12 hours ago, RedLine said:

Is Andrew Tate the representation of what buddhism ethics tell you not to do and it leads you to suffer?

 

• Buddhism tells you accept present moment as it is. Andrew Tate tells you take absolute control and responsability over  your reality. It something goes wrong is your fault.
• Buddhism tells you the ego (power over others) is the source of evil. The driven of life of Andrw Tate is to achieve megalomaniacs levels of ego (power)

 

 

However, and here the paradox, he  doesn't seem to be sunk in suffering, as buddhism would predict, but it seems like it feels really good to be in his shoes. You can see him talk and move and notice his super energy, his very high self esteem and his proud of all his achievements, which I am sure make him feel wonderful inside.

 

According to buddhism, he should be deep in suffer because he does the opposite buddhism preaches, however it looks like he is much more happier than average person.

 

Is buddhism wrong then? 

   This is an oversimplistic comparison between the two. Buddhism is way different than what Andrew Tate. 'Tateism'? So now Andrew Tate's hustle journey is selling philosophy? Really absurd. 

[Thought Art]

no, not according to Buddhism he be said. Buddhism doesn’t really say you anything about whether someone like Tate should suffer. In fact, you may see elements of Buddhism actually in how Tate behaves as well. If you understand the Buddha’s teaching doesn’t mean you necessarily suffer. 
 

Tate embodies a lot of qualities for a sort of healthier self esteem and sense of power and self efficacy. 

[manifestinggal456]

Personally, I think every religion has it wrong and right in certain ways. I highly suggest Sam Harris' book Waking Up since it's not always about who's right or who's wrong -- they're just different ways to look at similar concepts but each goes off on tangents that are ludicirus too 

[roopepa]

17 hours ago, RedLine said:

Buddhism tells you accept present moment as it is. Andrew Tate tells you take absolute control and responsability over  your reality. It something goes wrong is your fault.

Not really anyone to accept anything. More like observe present as it is.

The Four Noble Truths are about acknowledging that there is suffering and choosing to take the path of liberation. If that's not taking responsibility, I don't know what is.

17 hours ago, RedLine said:

Buddhism tells you the ego (power over others) is the source of evil. The driven of life of Andrw Tate is to achieve megalomaniacs levels of ego (power)

Power over others is not what buddhists mean by ego. Ego is thought-attachment and the belief in separate self(s). Also, not the source of evil but the source of suffering and ignorance.

17 hours ago, RedLine said:

According to buddhism, he should be deep in suffer because he does the opposite buddhism preaches, however it looks like he is much more happier than average person.

The separate self and the world, like Buddha famously said, is suffering. It might seem like fun times for some but it really isn't for anyone. It's just coped with, swept under the rug and suppressed until it gets unbearable. And then the Four Truths and the Path starts to make hella sense.

[Aaron p]

its unfortunate that masculinity has been so heavily scrutinized that young incel types have to fall back on extremist masculine mentors and role models like señor Tate to do something to respond to societies rejection of a very real part of reality...healthy masculinity, certain versions of extremist feminism call any kind of masculinity "toxic masculinity", it'll get a backlash eventually. 

Edited November 30, 2022 by Aaron p

[Thought Art]

@Aaron p agree

[Stovo]

Yeah, Tate is stage red crossing into blue. He believes the best countries in the world are the stage red/blue middle eastern countries. 

[Aaron p]

The blue in me loves Tate, lol. I can feel it, a need for strong masculine figures to raise their middle fingers to the face of political correctness. To re-establish the truth that lots and lots of feminism is extremely toxic. This is, of course, only part of the systematic outplay that must occur to allow the greater thing to happen, a gradual stabilisation of gender equality...as the pendulum swings to each pole slightly less each swing before finally resting somewhat in the fair..middle way

[Stovo]

@Aaron p One of the reasons Tate blew up is because western men have forgotten what true masculinity looks like.

You could learn a lot from Tate in this area if you can disregard all the other nonsense. 

Few progressives will be open to these teachings though which is why a lot of stage green people have no idea how to be masculine or feminine. 

[John Paul]

If you wanna learn masculinity watch a ufc fight. There’s no debate in there. which guy trained harder in camp? Not that simple but people don’t care… it’s who fought hardest in there giving everything they have. You can talk shit before the fight but when you are in there there’s no more talking.

[Thought Art]

@John Paul I would say the ability to fight is a small aspect of masculinity 

[Danioover9000]

   Andrew Tate's Tateism isn't really worth comaparing to Buddhism, just like east and west coast philosophy. 

1. It isn't so simple to answer and draw forth a titanic conclusion from this fighting style: clown hustle, from this loser turned turtle from flipping birdies, forgetting that he still suffers from dandelion issues.

2. When you meet the Buddha, kill him. However, Tate ain't the man to kill IT, when he's full of ills, suffering, addiction, gaining all that money, wealth and material success, to hide how he's dick has issues. Buddha'll Valhalla him with his Budweiser, and ping pong his soul six fold over every realm with sutras.

[LSD-Rumi]

Tate teaches you expression. Buddhism and spirituality teach you transcendence. Build a healthy ego then let go of it.

Edited December 1, 2022 by LSD-Rumi

[Gesundheit2]

[Thought Art]

8 hours ago, LSD-Rumi said:

Tate teaches you expression. Buddhism and spirituality teach you transcendence. Build a healthy ego then let go of it.

Is that really a true representation of what Buddhism teaches? Or is the an overnight simplification and pop culture understanding 

[Michael569]

Go travel to countries where budhism is practiced and speak to people who live it to understand the essence.  Maybe live with Monks for a few weeks in northern Thailand and sweap the leaves of their monasteries for 4 hours a day while giving up connection to the modern world.

If you think posers like Tate can teach you budhism you might be heading severally off the course and need some proper inspiration to recalibrate you.

Good luck

Edited December 1, 2022 by Michael569

[LSD-Rumi]

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

Is that really a true representation of what Buddhism teaches? Or is the an overnight simplification and pop culture understanding 

I meant spirituality in general. A lot of people here and a lot of supposedly spiritual people don't have healthy egos in the first place and they are practically weak men and cowards. In this case, a person like Andrew Tate is far better developed than them although they are thinking otherwise. Spirituality comes after building a solid and healthy ego, to complete the prcocess of development and to make you tap into very high levels of strength and love. But how could it work if you don't have a healthy ego in the first place.

But Also, I don't think people like Andrew Tate are that healthy in the first place. He lacks a lot aspects of a healthy ego. He is practically an asshole perosn and a lot of people are overestimating his level of happiness. You cannot be happy if you don't have deep levels of love for life, and opprtunists like Andrew Tate don't have this love, they are practically hungry dogs, they will be always hungry and will never be satisfied.

In the end, a drop of the divine love  is worth all Andrew Tate and his teachings, and anybody telling different just don't know.

Edited December 1, 2022 by LSD-Rumi

[Thought Art]

@LSD-Rumi There’s truth to what you are saying. However, most people here haven’t read a single book on Buddhism to begin with. Buddhism really promotes understanding your suffering and using a critical and intelligent approach to solving it and living a good holistic and balanced life. There is also more to Buddhism, but in the context of comparing it to Tate.

A Buddhist could see Tate, and use his Buddhist understanding to grow. It’s not opposing Buddhism totally. A Buddhist should be an open book and student of life.

A lot of men need good strong male, masculine roles models. Yet, honestly they are few and far between. I can’t even name one.

Ideally one who is also deeply spiritually grounded and full of integrity. Someone who is yet to be actualized. Soon, they are in their way.

Edited December 1, 2022 by Thought Art

[Danioover9000]

   At this point, if I'm being good faith and charitable, I have to assume the OP is trolling. There's no shot Andrew Tate's teaching anything that'll out value what Buddhism has to offer; I think what you meant was Leo Gura, the other bald guy, that guy might out value Buddhism, but ain't no way Andrew Tate gonna out value spirituality and Buddhism. Even in business and commerce he's a shady guy, and it's a 50/50 in even his own niche, even in his own niche he's a certain kind of lame man child.