Victim mindset among young men regarding women

[fabger]

I know it's hard in the digital age to socialize and deal with women face to face but there is a trend among young men such as myself (23M) to subconsciously blame women for their lack of success with them. You dont have to be an incel to do that. The MANOSPHERE as a whole did way more damage to guys psyche than did any good. Of course your looks matter, but you still NEED to initiate with women, such as everywhere else in the biological kingdom. It would seem obvious, but I see a lot of ,,blaming the opposite sex" type of content on this forum. I know it can be hard out here, but there exist a ton of below average looking men who still date and stuff just because they initiate and socialize.

You have to take responsibility just like Leo says.

These ,,pills" got me to pretty dark places even though I had success with women and I'm decent looking.

[NoSelfSelf]

@fabgerYou are a rare independent thinker ?

[Eyowey]

Victim mindset = submissiveness. Submissiveness gets programmed into men by femdom porn. Girl on top of guy. Girl doing things to guy while he does nothing. ASMR falls into this category. 

[John Paul]

@Eyowey victim mindset also programmed by adults that the child is around including to the people they listen to at school and online 

[Eyowey]

3 minutes ago, John Paul said:

@Eyowey victim mindset also programmed by adults that the child is around including to the people they listen to at school and online 

True. Young humans are basically slaves for 18 years. Some even longer than that. Finding your own authentic desires becomes a challenge.

[something_else]

On 28/11/2022 at 9:59 PM, Eyowey said:

Victim mindset = submissiveness. Submissiveness gets programmed into men by femdom porn. Girl on top of guy. Girl doing things to guy while he does nothing. ASMR falls into this category. 

Dude, what are you smoking?

On 28/11/2022 at 6:51 PM, fabger said:

I know it's hard in the digital age to socialize and deal with women face to face but there is a trend among young men such as myself (23M) to subconsciously blame women for their lack of success with them. You dont have to be an incel to do that. The MANOSPHERE as a whole did way more damage to guys psyche than did any good. Of course your looks matter, but you still NEED to initiate with women, such as everywhere else in the biological kingdom. It would seem obvious, but I see a lot of ,,blaming the opposite sex" type of content on this forum. I know it can be hard out here, but there exist a ton of below average looking men who still date and stuff just because they initiate and socialize.

You have to take responsibility just like Leo says.

These ,,pills" got me to pretty dark places even though I had success with women and I'm decent looking.

The silliest thing I see guys in this sphere do is judge themselves based on how often women approach them. If women don't approach them they decide that they are worthless, rather than realising that the masculine/feminine dynamic is built upon the man doing the initiating.

[King Merk]

Most people will play the victim in every domain possible.

Obviously this happens with men and women.

It’s easier to blame women than to “man up” and consciously improve yourself.

If your life sucks it’s because you suck.

Period.