Why do most black voters vote for Democrats, even when most of them aren't liberal?

[Hardkill]

I just came across this article that was written by FiveThirtyEight a couple years ago: 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-so-many-black-voters-are-democrats-even-when-they-arent-liberal/

 

[Leo Gura]

Cause Republicans are effectively a party for white supremacy.

You'd have to be a pretty dumb black person not to see this. Some black people are foolish enough not to see it, but most are not.

What needs explaining is how anyone can be black and vote Republican. Which is usually explained by some personal financial gain.

Edited November 25, 2022 by Leo Gura

[How to be wise]

@Leo Gura The Republican Party has been trying to get minority votes a lot more lately. Trump even mentioned minorities in his recent speech, something only Democrats would do pre-2016.

[Leo Gura]

Wolf tries to get sheep.

What else is new?

[How to be wise]

@Leo Gura If you’re actively seeking minority votes, that by itself is proof that you are not a white supremacist. Can you imagine Hitler asking Jews to vote for him? Unthinkable. I also think that the increase in female Republican politicians has had a positive effect on the GOP, since they are much less likely to fall into right wing extremism than the male politicians are. 

[Leo Gura]

The only thing Trump is seeking is to get his fragile ego stroked by as many people as possible.

There are a lot of extremely dumb conservative women. Don't underestimate that. Just look at Lauren Bobert, MTG, and Kari Lake.

Women are less violent than men, but they are equally suseptible to ideology.

Edited November 25, 2022 by Leo Gura

[How to be wise]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Lauren Bobert, MTG, and Kari Lake.

Although these women are the most extreme you will find, if you compare them to the average male maga republicans, they are saints.

Kari lake was an Obama supporter. 

[Hardkill]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Cause Republicans are effectively a party for white supremacy.

You'd have to be a pretty dumb black person not to see this. Some black people are foolish enough not to see it, but most are not.

What needs explaining is how anyone be black and vote Republican. Which is usually explained by some personal financial gain.

True. The vast majority of African-Americans began to side with Democrats around the turn of the 20th century when the Democratic party back then became the party of organized labor and immigrants. This trend continued on during Woodrow Wilson's Presidency. Then, during the FDR era, black voters further increased their support for the Democratic Party due to the Great Depression and FDR's empathy for and appeal to minorities. When FDR passed away and his VP, Truman took over as president, Truman passed an executive order that allowed blacks to integrate with whites in the military for the first time ever in history. Truman, also declared to the public during his presidency that the Democratic party has now become the party of civil rights. This of course caused anger and resentment amongst most of the Southern Democrats within their party during the mid 1900s. Later on, Democrats in the 50s and early 60s continued their strong support for the civil rights for all people of all races/ethnicities, gender, religion, etc. as the civil rights movement was happening. JFK during his presidency tried, but failed to get the civil rights and equal voting rights acts passed during his presidency before he got assassinated. From what I understand, when JFK's VP, LBJ, took over as president, the combination of the powerful influence from the civil rights movement, the trauma of JFK's death, large Democratic majorities in Congress, and LBJ's great legislative acumen and aggressive pressure on Congress to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964 finally resulted in the passage of that landmark law. Afterwards, when LBJ defeated Barry Goldwater, who was perceived as a right-wing extremist at the time, in an overwhelming landslide and the Democratic party won an even greater majority of liberals and democrats in Congress, that's when LBJ and the Democrat where able to pass the other landmark civil rights and voting acts along with the rest of the Great Society laws during the rest of the 60s.

 

[Hardkill]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The only thing Trump is seeking is to get his fragile ego stroked.

There are a lot of extremely dumb conservative women. Don't underestimate that. Just look at Lauren Bobert, MTG, and Kari Lake.

Women are less violent than men, but they are equally suseptible to ideology.

Despite the fact that the majority of women, the solid majority of latinos, and the vast majority blacks throughout the whole country still vote Democrat, what's your take on why their has been a significant amount of support blacks, latinos, and women from the Democratic party to the Republican Party ever since 2016? Has it been because of Trump's right-wing "populism"?

Edited November 25, 2022 by Hardkill

[DrugsBunny]

10 hours ago, How to be wise said:

@Leo Gura If you’re actively seeking minority votes, that by itself is proof that you are not a white supremacist. 

Lmao. 

Sometimes I'll be playing chess and get one-upped by an intelligent move I didn't consider, reflexively I will feel a bit stupid, but I can always rely on comments like this to give me reassurance that it could be a lot worse.

[thepixelmonk]

50 minutes ago, DrugsBunny said:

Sometimes I'll be playing chess and get one-upped by an intelligent move I didn't consider, reflexively I will feel a bit stupid, but I can always rely on comments like this to give me reassurance that it could be a lot worse.

LOL I know right this forum is a treasure trove

[Danioover9000]

@Hardkill

15 hours ago, Hardkill said:

I just came across this article that was written by FiveThirtyEight a couple years ago: 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-so-many-black-voters-are-democrats-even-when-they-arent-liberal/

 

   Originally Republicans and conservatives are supposed to be the checks and balances to some very progressive and socialistic policies that are too farfetched to work in reality, they are supposed to be for preservation of traditional values, property rights, some nationalistic values, nation and country welfare, individualism, some religious values, and the preservation of what works.

[JTL]

14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Cause Republicans are effectively a party for white supremacy.

You'd have to be a pretty dumb black person not to see this. Some black people are foolish enough not to see it, but most are not.

What needs explaining is how anyone can be black and vote Republican. Which is usually explained by some personal financial gain.

I agree with you, what does this white supremacy look like? And why are so many white republicans going along with this ? @Leo Gura

[John Paul]

 

[DocWatts]

Besides personal financial gain, there's also the prospect of getting to be treated as an "honorary white" as a reward for confirming to the Christian nationalist ideal of what a model minority should look and behave like.

Can't talk about racism in America without also talking about classism, as the two are inextricably intertwined. When reactionaries do find their idea of a model minority who's willing to become a mouthpiece for Christian nationalism, they tend to show them off like merit badges ("see we're not really racist, it's just black culture that we have a problem with...")

Edited November 26, 2022 by DocWatts

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, JTL said:

I agree with you, what does this white supremacy look like? And why are so many white republicans going along with this ? @Leo Gura

It looks like MAGA storming the Capitol, beating the police with Confederate flag poles.

Edited November 26, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It looks like MAGA storming the Capitol, beating the police with Confederate flag poles.

Speaking of black Republicans, this is what the Hodgetwins or Conservative Twins said about the Capitol Riot back then:

 

Edited November 26, 2022 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Hardkill said:

Speaking of black Republicans, this is what the Hodgetwins or Conservative Twins said about the Capitol Riot back then:

 

These two buffoons. Lolz

[Hardkill]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

These two buffoons. Lolz

Yet, they have been saying that anyone who says that Republicans are racists are stupid. They say that the reasons they left the Democratic party were because the party never stood for solid conservative American values, has become too woke, doesn't promote personal responsibility, the mainstream media and liberal media have brainwashed or "mentally enslaved" many people including the black population into believing that the Republican party is the enemy, and that conservatives like Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens were right all along.

 

Edited November 26, 2022 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

Anyone who is still supporting Republicans at this point is a joke.