ESP training (Russell Targ)

[Lizard Man]

Hi everyone!

Has anyone hear any experience with this?

I was thinking of trying out the official program by Russell Targ. But it looks like it is only available for apple iPhones

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/esp-trainer/id336882103

So before I invest in a smart phone (to get the program to work) then spend a lot of time on it; I wanted to see if anyone has used it and has had any benefits from it like.....

How long and how often have you been training on this program?

And what did you benefit from it (if any)?

Thanks

L.M.

[Yarco]

psiarcade.org should do pretty much the same thing for free, except it doesn't give sound/vibration feedback. it just tells you if you were right or not.

I've always only used it as a way to test for ESP abilities, but never considered that you could actually use it to train them.

definitely do not invest in a smartphone just for a £0.89 app lol

[Lizard Man]

On 21/11/2022 at 2:26 AM, Yarco said:

psiarcade.org should do pretty much the same thing for free, except it doesn't give sound/vibration feedback. it just tells you if you were right or not.

I've always only used it as a way to test for ESP abilities, but never considered that you could actually use it to train them.

definitely do not invest in a smartphone just for a £0.89 app lol

Thanks for providing the link; But I see that registration for this relies on having a google account! Have you actully practiced with this to the point where you fell your overall score has improved over time?

[thisintegrated]

http://www.thetargetpool.com/login.php

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It's really just a matter of practice.  It's not something anyone can teach you.

[Eyowey]

Random.org can be used for practicing number prediction.

[Lizard Man]

On 22/11/2022 at 5:26 AM, thisintegrated said:

http://www.thetargetpool.com/login.php

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It's really just a matter of practice.  It's not something anyone can teach you.

Sure I understand what you are saying; like building physical mussel. You have to do it not someone show you it

But I want to make sure I dont go up and down the garden path road of a wasted venture. After all when Yarco stated

On 21/11/2022 at 2:26 AM, Yarco said:

I've always only used it as a way to test for ESP abilities, but never considered that you could actually use it to train them.

So I must ask? Have you trained with this tool or any others and found an improvement in your score?

BTW the link is for members only so I can not participate   (see image, screen shot atached)

[Lizard Man]

On 22/11/2022 at 5:33 AM, Eyowey said:

Random.org can be used for practicing number prediction.

Yes I see it has a random number box of 1-100 in top right of screen. And in the text it mentions it uses sound as opposed to nothing compared to other programs (though I do not hear any sound though my speakers).

But Have you used this program over time and found an improvement in your score?

[thisintegrated]

 

14 hours ago, Lizard Man said:

Yes I see it has a random number box of 1-100 in top right of screen. And in the text it mentions it uses sound as opposed to nothing compared to other programs (though I do not hear any sound though my speakers).

But Have you used this program over time and found an improvement in your score?

Yeah that's a fine site, but limited.

 

14 hours ago, Lizard Man said:

BTW the link is for members only so I can not participate   (see image, screen shot atached)

On 22/11/2022 at 5:26 AM, thisintegrated said:

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^That's the login

 

14 hours ago, Lizard Man said:

So I must ask? Have you trained with this tool or any others and found an improvement in your score?

Yeah I use it occasionally.

But really the only limiting factor is your signal-noise ratio.  If you're a "thinker" or "intuitive" then it's gonna take more work reducing that noise.

Noise is data generated locally.  The signal is the non-local data.

 

To learn to reduce the noise, all you can do is meditate.  A good RV state is a good meditative state.  The meditative state is primarily theta.  If you want to experiment with making this easier, listen to 4hz-7hz binaural beats and/or isochronic tones as you do this.

RV is just applied meditation.  It's one of meditation's main applications.  No one just sits there focusing on the breath for no reason, that would be insanity and a huge waste of time.  Meditation's only productive as a tool to train your mind, and training is only productive if you put it to use.

Edited November 23, 2022 by thisintegrated

[Lizard Man]

15 hours ago, thisintegrated said:

^That's the login

But there is no where to register; hence its completely useless!

[Lizard Man]

15 hours ago, thisintegrated said:

But really the only limiting factor is your signal-noise ratio.  If you're a "thinker" or "intuitive" then it's gonna take more work reducing that noise.

Sorry I dont understand! I can not hear any sound from the site!

[Lizard Man]

15 hours ago, thisintegrated said:

  If you want to experiment with making this easier, listen to 4hz-7hz binaural beats and/or isochronic tones as you do this.

How on earth can you listen to that? The lowest note on a grand piano is A0 at 27.5hz. And the lowest note I see on record is a C0 at 16.35hz. I would imagine the human ear could not pick up anything lower

[Lizard Man]

15 hours ago, thisintegrated said:

RV is just applied meditation.  It's one of meditation's main applications.  No one just sits there focusing on the breath for no reason, that would be insanity and a huge waste of time.  Meditation's only productive as a tool to train your mind, and training is only productive if you put it to use.

So do you think meditation would improve psychic telepathic powers to predict things such as remote viewing?

[thisintegrated]

3 hours ago, Lizard Man said:

But there is no where to register; hence its completely useless!

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For username type guest.

For password type guest.

 

No need to register.

 

3 hours ago, Lizard Man said:

Sorry I dont understand! I can not hear any sound from the site!

I was talking about seeing things psychically.  You don't just see an exact image of what you're trying to remote view.  You probably, like everyone else, have thoughts and your mind doesn't stay fixed on one thing for hours.  That is noise.  You're not trying to remote view your thoughts about dinner last night, yet you still get those thought while trying to remote view.

You mind is like an antenna.  When remote viewing, you're tuning to the frequency of your subject.  Antennas pick up everything, so you'll pick up random stuff if you're not practiced enough.

 

3 hours ago, Lizard Man said:

How on earth can you listen to that? The lowest note on a grand piano is A0 at 27.5hz. And the lowest note I see on record is a C0 at 16.35hz. I would imagine the human ear could not pick up anything lower

Because it's not listening to frequencies.  It's listening to binaural beats.

So e.g. if you have 105hz in one ear and 100hz in the other the brain will identify the difference and shift to a 5hz brainwave frequency.

Edited November 24, 2022 by thisintegrated

[JuliusCaesar]

@Lizard Man Personally, I like to play Baccarat or Blackjack when testing my precognitive capability. There are plenty of places online you can play not for money.

[Lizard Man]

On 23/11/2022 at 9:28 PM, thisintegrated said:

To learn to reduce the noise, all you can do is meditate.  A good RV state is a good meditative state.  The meditative state is primarily theta.  If you want to experiment with making this easier, listen to 4hz-7hz binaural beats and/or isochronic tones as you do this.

RV is just applied meditation.  It's one of meditation's main applications.  No one just sits there focusing on the breath for no reason, that would be insanity and a huge waste of time.  Meditation's only productive as a tool to train your mind, and training is only productive if you put it to use.

 

7 hours ago, thisintegrated said:

Because it's not listening to frequencies.  It's listening to binaural beats.

So e.g. if you have 105hz in one ear and 100hz in the other the brain will identify the difference and shift to a 5hz brainwave frequency.

So I get your theory on listening to a sound that the human ear can not pick up by listing, so by listing to two sounds, the brain picks out the over tone from it. But dose this practice improve meditation practice or remote viewing and being able to read whats on the card before it is presented?

[Lizard Man]

1 hour ago, JuliusCaesar said:

@Lizard Man Personally, I like to play Baccarat or Blackjack when testing my precognitive capability. There are plenty of places online you can play not for money.

You know what; after watching Russel Targ's video on remote viewing and seeing the bit about how they predicted silver prices on the markets. Not long after I wondered how predicting a card that is all ready selected or a red or black on a roulette wheel that they think "oh it all be this number oh it all be that number". But at the end of the day if Russel Targs ESP trainer did work then these people gambling in casinos would of learn this psychic trick of how to win right? and the casinos would be out of business; would they not?

[Lizard Man]

8 hours ago, thisintegrated said:

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For username type guest.

For password type guest.

 

Bingo! Ive got it im in.

But having a brief go. I just cant see it leading anywhere really!

In fact I dont see any logical process of how any of this ESP training will ever improve ones psychic abilites to be honest (as I stated above, people spending half there lifes willy nilly guessing on a casino wheel or a deck of card dose not work for them then why should the same approch hear work either?)

Edited November 25, 2022 by Lizard Man

[thisintegrated]

1 hour ago, Lizard Man said:

 

So I get your theory on listening to a sound that the human ear can not pick up by listing, so by listing to two sounds, the brain picks out the over tone from it. But dose this practice improve meditation practice or remote viewing and being able to read whats on the card before it is presented?

It's not a theory, it's an observed effect.  The phenomenon has been known for long time.

The meditative state is theta.  So something that puts you in theta will put you in theta.

 

1 hour ago, Lizard Man said:

Bingo! Ive got it im in.

Great!  I'm impressed it took only 3 attempts

 

1 hour ago, Lizard Man said:

But having a brief go. I just cant see it leading anywhere really!

In fact I dont see any logical process of how any of this ESP training will ever improve ones psychic abilites to be honest (as I stated above, people spending half there lifes willy nilly guessing on a casino wheel or a deck of card dose not work for them then why should the same approch hear work either?)

What kind of logical process were you expecting?  Some theory on how to "think" you way the answer?  Some intellectual process that helps you work it out?  What were you expecting exactly?

If you're accessing data that your brain does not have, no intellectual process will help you access it as it's not there!

Stop trying to generate the answer yourself, cause then it's just your imagination.

If you wanna be an antenna, then be an antenna and stop being the broadcasting station!  That's what remote viewers are, good antennas.  How do you become a better antenna?  Stop being a good broadcaster!

It's so easy, you just have to learn to get out of your way.

Edited November 25, 2022 by thisintegrated

[Lizard Man]

18 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

It's not a theory, it's an observed effect.  The phenomenon has been known for long time.

The meditative state is theta.  So something that puts you in theta will put you in theta.

So you are saying that its not theory and that it is a tried and tested fact that helps meditation and that is not necessarily for improving psychic abilities right?

 

22 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

If you're accessing data that your brain does not have, no intellectual process will help you access it as it's not there!

Stop trying to generate the answer yourself, cause then it's just your imagination.

If you wanna be an antenna, then be an antenna and stop being the broadcasting station!

Right! so I go back to what I was saying before about people willy nilly guessing the machines and cards in a casino and making nowt out of it; and how that scenario is supposed to work in Russell Targ's ESP training, where as said before in this post you are just supposed to practice and you will get it in time. as said people have done so and failed

So where is the logic to achieving the act of turning the brain from a broadcasting station into an antenna; I ask? Is that not the first step before the guessing game begins?

[thisintegrated]

25 minutes ago, Lizard Man said:

So you are saying that its not theory and that it is a tried and tested fact that helps meditation and that is not necessarily for improving psychic abilities right?

Yes.

 

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Right! so I go back to what I was saying before about people willy nilly guessing the machines and cards in a casino and making nowt out of it; and how that scenario is supposed to work in Russell Targ's ESP training, where as said before in this post you are just supposed to practice and you will get it in time. as said people have done so and failed

Numbers are 1000x harder than anything else.  And noone actually does this for casinos.  It's possible, but noone does this.

Subjective data is much easier.  Like cold/hot, big/small, hard/soft, etc. rather than x.xx cm by x.xx cm.

 

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So where is the logic to achieving the act of turning the brain from a broadcasting station into an antenna; I ask? Is that not the first step before the guessing game begins?

Turn off all you emotions, your awareness of the fact you exist, turn off the ego and the intellect, and then ask me the same thing.

In all likelihood, you've not experienced a single one of those requirements for even a moment in your entire life.  If you want a step by step RV guide, then step 1 is to learn to completely disconnect from your mind.  If you ever manage to do this, how RV works will become obvious.

btw, I don't meditate much anymore yet I still find information specific to the target around 95% of the time.  It's really not that hard.  What's difficult is working out what the target actually is.  Like recently I RV'd a birthday cake.  Spikes looked like candles, I got the shape and color right, got the country right, got the big letters on it right ..and it turned out to be a Las Vegas sign.  Got so many details completely right, but missed the context.  If I had stayed on it longer I would've gotten more clues, and may have gotten the exact target, but for that level of accuracy I'd have to spend hours.

If I had done this with a group of people, and if they had gotten clues about highways, casinos, south US, etc. then we could've put this all together and achieved a crazy/scary level of accuracy.  The CIA frequently used this to find hostages, to find a secret USSR submarine even USSR generals didn't know about, to find a crashed planes, etc.  With a group of RVers there's nothing you can't accomplish.

Edited November 25, 2022 by thisintegrated