Leo and Me Are Both Cowards

[Breakingthewall]

they are not going to crucify him but he is experimenting with his own brain doing things that no one has done before. I wouldn't call him a coward

[Proserpina]

18 hours ago, Julian gabriel said:

@Proserpina what do you mean by “situation” ?

What I mean by "situation" is really bad collective outcomes, for example, The Holocaust. 

[A_v_E]

I've realized that also recently about my self ( only ), thanks for the share.

this is why I've left all my drugs of choice and took a sword of light.

the devils shall be stopped and love must prevail.
 

Edited November 20, 2022 by A_v_E

[A_v_E]

@Razard86 what if the quotes of leo means nothing but his own belief system.

"to believe holding the truth is the biggest lie"
maybe even that is a lie ?

WHO is to tell ?
 
@Jehovah increases to say everything is a background story.. sounds like a background story you tell yourself to me.

Edited November 20, 2022 by A_v_E

[Julian gabriel]

20 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Here is your answer. https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-009

This also...pushes the dagger further in as well. https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-016

@Razard86 I think ur becoming too much like Leo. In the way that u say the same thing in response to every question.

Whatever question I ask u just say:

All is ur mind, all is a dream.

Hey @Leo Gura What’s the difference between different subjects? 

Leo says: all is mind all is a dream 

Hey @Leo Gura What is the difference between the self and other in ur experience? 

Leo says: All is mind all is a dream

Yes, IVE HEARD THAT. I’m trying to come at it from a different angle and have an interesting discussion about it.

Even though the whole world is just you and ur mind and ur not obligated to do anything and there’s nobody else to do anything for. You can still be a fucking coward. 

[Julian gabriel]

18 hours ago, Yarco said:

You keep saying Jesus would still be crucified today. For what though?

What spiritual leaders have been removed from social media or imprisoned in 1st world countries within the past several decades? What would Jesus get locked up for today?

The only religious leaders or cult leaders getting arrested in modern times are those that sexually abuse their followers, have weapons violations, or break some other laws.

We haven't killed people for being heretics in western society since like the 1600s.

I can't think of anything people get persecuted for nowadays except hate speech. 

@Yarco I think that If Eckhart tolle was better at what he does and had more of an impact on politics and our culture then he’d be crucified in some way. Because it would be too much for us to handle and we’d strike back at him. 

I think the reason that current spiritual teachers aren’t crucified is because they aren’t very good at what they’re doing. 

If ur revolution goes well, you should die. 

Edited November 20, 2022 by Julian gabriel

[axiom]

@Julian gabriel

In the end, no one can choose whether or not to act courageously.

So then attributing courage or cowardice to apparent behaviours can only be a misapprehension.

[Julian gabriel]

28 minutes ago, axiom said:

@Julian gabriel

In the end, no one can choose whether or not to act courageously.

So then attributing courage or cowardice to apparent behaviours can only be a misapprehension.

@axiom Why do you say you can’t choose? 

[axiom]

54 minutes ago, Julian gabriel said:

@axiom Why do you say you can’t choose? 

I don’t. These are words on a page.

[Razard86]

2 hours ago, Julian gabriel said:

@Razard86 I think ur becoming too much like Leo. In the way that u say the same thing in response to every question.

Whatever question I ask u just say:

All is ur mind, all is a dream.

Hey @Leo Gura What’s the difference between different subjects? 

Leo says: all is mind all is a dream 

Hey @Leo Gura What is the difference between the self and other in ur experience? 

Leo says: All is mind all is a dream

Yes, IVE HEARD THAT. I’m trying to come at it from a different angle and have an interesting discussion about it.

Even though the whole world is just you and ur mind and ur not obligated to do anything and there’s nobody else to do anything for. You can still be a fucking coward. 

Its not I am becoming like Leo. Any Spiritual Teacher would tell you, who are you saving....if everyone is you. Also you called Leo a coward....Julian..Julian. Would a coward do this? 

https://www.youtube.com/c/ActualizedOrg/search?query=Leo 5 MEO DMT

 

Let's not play this game. You are playing another identity game. You believe you are a coward, and since you love Leo....you project that identity onto him as well. 

Well if you believe you and Leo are both cowards....you too should go take 5 MEO DMT and tell the world on Youtube that you are God.

If Leo doing THIS...isn't putting himself in harms way I don't know what to tell you. Do you know he gets death threats also? Please explain....how a coward....would do any of these things? You apply a lot of labels to Leo...but coward....is one that doesn't actually apply.

Here is another thing that Leo did. 

This ^^^ is dangerous!!! It can break your grip on reality and possibly drive you insane. When Leo first took 5 MEO DMT he said it scared the shit out of him and he had to take a break. Later on...he overcame his fear...and was willing to attempt to take it everyday for 30 days. IS THIS WHAT A COWARD WOULD DO?

Then there is this.

Look at his bad trips? But there is also more!!! He has taken EXPERIMENTAL PSYCHEDELICS ALSO!!! And also recently he admitted to almost dying from experimenting with a NEW PROCEDURE!!! He also asked to experience insanity through psychedelic use as well!!!!

Again...does this sound like a coward to you? Leo is many labels...coward....is a hard one to apply to him. 

Now....all of this...is utterly meaningless and purposeless because LEO IS YOU!!! But hey.... I didn't think you thought so less of yourself to believe him to be a coward. Let's not try to force people...to fit our preference of how they should be. Leo is as he should be...and so are you.

Edited November 20, 2022 by Razard86

[vladorion]

Agree with Razard86, you need big balls to do the stuff Leo does.

[Razard86]

2 hours ago, Jehovah increases said:

No, you don't need big balls to do what Leo is doing you need big ovaries

Big balls, big ovaries, both are impressive displays of personal power. Besides me and friends have always laughed at how people say big balls as if balls weren't the most vulnerable part of a man's body. And how when someone acts weak they call them a pussy yet a pussy can take a lot of damage to it and a whole baby comes out of it. 

The irony of how words are used and the meanings attributed to them. So funny. 

 

 

[Razard86]

1 hour ago, Jehovah increases said:

And yes a pussy can take a lot he'll of a lot so true. The irony in all this is there is no irony to irony except what you attach to it.

This is true.

[Kuba Powiertowski]

On 19.11.2022 at 7:17 PM, Jehovah increases said:

We are in 2022 times have changed no crucifixions and I do love how consciousness likes to play games with itself. What if I told you Jesus is just a background story so to speak?

Metaphorically, but also quite seriously, Jesus dies on the cross somewhere in the world every day. People are imprisoned because they fight for the rights of racial minorities, human rights, and freedom of speech. Women are stoned when they testify to the courage to be a woman. Jesus is not just any story. What pisses me off the most about such theoreticians of enlightenment as here on this forum is that sometimes, from behind armchairs in warm, comfortable apartments, completely safe, they tell such nonsense that it's hard to read. Each of the claims made here will be thoroughly tested by the Greatest Teachers - Life and Its assistant - Failure. Unfortunately, Spirituality in the hands of the Ego is not Spirituality.

[Kuba Powiertowski]

Less theory, more practice, I advise

[Razard86]

8 minutes ago, Kuba Powiertowski said:

Metaphorically, but also quite seriously, Jesus dies on the cross somewhere in the world every day. People are imprisoned because they fight for the rights of racial minorities, human rights, and freedom of speech. Women are stoned when they testify to the courage to be a woman. Jesus is not just any story. What pisses me off the most about such theoreticians of enlightenment as here on this forum is that sometimes, from behind armchairs in warm, comfortable apartments, completely safe, they tell such nonsense that it's hard to read. Each of the claims made here will be thoroughly tested by the Greatest Teachers - Life and Its assistant - Failure. Unfortunately, Spirituality in the hands of the Ego is not Spirituality.

Failure is imaginary. Completely and utterly imaginary. It has never existed, it is a concept like everything else.

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@Razard86 With all due respect, my friend, I will not discuss with you how many devils will dance on the head of a pin and which devil is more imaginary and which less. We have already talked about it. The fact is that you are a man on earth, and you cannot just unimagine it. You're here to learn, like all of us. The more humility and practice in learning, the better. This gives measurable results.
Regards

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@Jehovah increases Read carefully, my friend. That's not what I was saying. People make a real sacrifice fighting for a better tomorrow. And they suffer for it. They are persecuted and tortured, currently, at the moment. This is how it works in this dimension. Anything else you don't know?

[Kuba Powiertowski]

Before taking a step towards non-duality, it is good to be rooted in duality. Where we are, on the lower vibrations, everything is dual as hell, and our conversation is proof of that. And the path from duality to non-duality requires the death of the Ego on the cross - metaphorically speaking. And that takes courage. And this one comes from the practice of looking into the abyss, communing with the abyss. It's not that simple. However, I wish this for everyone - courage.

 

 

“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

Frank Herbert Dune

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Kuba Powiertowski said:

must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

fear is a vibration that keeps us tied to illusion. it is the cement with which the dual world is built. the layers of fear are many and the job is to dismantle them one by one. meditation every day, psychedelic every week