As a truth seeker.. what is the most radical thing that I can do?

[Blackhawk]

I was observing a poor little unknowing fly walking on my skin..

So I was thinking: what can that poor little fly do? 

(I think it was a tiny truth seeker, at least a bit truth seeker.)

 

Maybe I'm like that fly..

 

I was thinking that there's nothing it can do (as a truth seeker) other than die.  (Because of its inherent limitations).

But I could definitely be wrong.

Edited November 18, 2022 by Blackhawk

[Blackhawk]

I have already tried psychedelics.

[Razard86]

Completely deconstruct your mind until "you" don't exist. A psychedelic is a tool, an enhancer, it doesn't replace the actual work. The work is deconstruction, and keeping an openness to the absolute. But the great thing about all this is you have no choice in the matter as long as you believe in a "you."

[Cathal]

nothing

[Blackhawk]

8 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

Completely deconstruct your mind until "you" don't exist. 

How?

7 minutes ago, catcat69123 said:

nothing

I like that. I think that you are probably right.

I'm a fucking fly who can do nothing.

[Razard86]

7 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

How?

I like that. I think that you are probably right.

I'm a fucking fly who can do nothing.

Question your entire identity. Ever single thing you identify with and ask yourself what it is. Just understand if you go deep enough you are going to die. Utterly and completely. This is dangerous work....it's your entire existence. Are you really okay with this process? Don't push further unless you don't care about anything but the truth. If you still care about being safe and feeling good then completely ignore everything I just said.

Edited November 18, 2022 by Razard86

[JuliusCaesar]

6 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

How?

Are you certain this is the appropriate inquiry? You don't want to make it more specific?

 

8 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

I like that. I think that you are probably right.

I'm a fucking fly who can do nothing.

Nonsense. You are not fly, but man. Mankind is far more capable than any fly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[OBEler]

30 days of 5 meo Malt

[JuliusCaesar]

4 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

Question your entire identity. Ever single thing you identity and ask yourself what it is. Just understand if you go deep enough you are going to die. Utterly and completely. This is dangerous work....it's your entire existence. Are you really okay with this process? Don't push further unless you don't care about anything buy the truth. If you still care about being safe and feeling good then completely ignore everything I just said.

If truth is paradoxical, then why not try and do exactly the opposite of all that and see if it yields the desired effect?

 

2 minutes ago, OBEler said:

30 days of 5 meo Malt

Suggestion brought to you by Leo is God, God is Leo Incorporated, thank you for your business, citizen.

[Blackhawk]

7 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

Question your entire identity. Ever single thing you identify with and ask yourself what it is. Just understand if you go deep enough you are going to die. Utterly and completely. This is dangerous work....it's your entire existence. Are you really okay with this process? Don't push further unless you don't care about anything but the truth. If you still care about being safe and feeling good then completely ignore everything I just said.

I have done that..

5 minutes ago, JuliusCaesar said:

Nonsense. You are not fly, but man. Mankind is far more capable than any fly.

Compared to what?

Isn't it all relative?

Maybe in comparison to a alien or something I'm a fly.

3 minutes ago, OBEler said:

30 days of 5 meo Malt

I have already tried psychedelics..

Anything would be easier than what you suggested..

Maybe in a future life.

[Razard86]

20 minutes ago, JuliusCaesar said:

If truth is paradoxical, then why not try and do exactly the opposite of all that and see if it yields the desired effect?

 

It will, but it seems he is looking for a direct path. All paths lead to truth inevitably because everything is truth, it's just in a dream of denial of what it is. 

[JuliusCaesar]

27 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

Compared to what?

Nothing and Everything.

 

27 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

Isn't it all relative?

The relative is absolute. 

 

27 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

Maybe in comparison to a alien or something I'm a fly.

Too general, you would need to be more specific to make that thought stream functional.

 

28 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

I have already tried psychedelics..

It seems these days everyone's tried psychedelics. But have you tried thought?

 

29 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

Anything would be easier than what you suggested..

Hence why I responded in a quasi-meme manner.

 

29 minutes ago, Blackhawk said:

Maybe in a future life.

What if your current life is a future life? What then?

 

11 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

It will, but it seems he is looking for a direct path.

What if the inverse of what you suggested is more direct? Who is to say whether turning yourself into nothing is easier than to turn yourself into everyone and everything?

 

12 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

All paths lead to truth inevitably because everything is truth

Then truth loses all meaning and value. This is the burden of the price to be paid for clarity.

 

13 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

it's just in a dream of denial of what it is. 

Is it truly denial? Or is it self-affirmation?

 

[Osaid]

 

[Moksha]

The most radical thing you can do is to Self-realize that you are here not to die but to enjoy this phenomenal moment, seeing through the dream-prism that you created.

[Breakingthewall]

what you have to do is get rid of all ideas about anything. any idea is toxic. to think that you are god, toxic, infinite, the same. you have to empty yourself of all concepts and stick to what you are now. you are. That is the only reality. the absolute is you, now. but this is another idea. you must forget it. You must deconstruct until only you remain. Anything else is meaningless. 

[JuliusCaesar]

17 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

any idea is toxic.

If that is so, then you ought to forget the whole thing, as this notion itself is an idea. What if there are toxic and non-toxic thoughts and thought-forms?

 

36 minutes ago, Moksha said:

The most radical thing you can do is to Self-realize that you are here not to die but to enjoy this phenomenal moment, seeing through the dream-prism that you created.

The essence of being is doing, not dying. So, this is very true.

 

[Breakingthewall]

17 minutes ago, JuliusCaesar said:

What if there are toxic and non-toxic thoughts and thought-forms?

I'm not sure if there are non toxic thoughts in terms of realizing the self. there may be thoughts that help deconstruct. new thoughts that help soften monolithic thoughts that create limitation. but there comes a time when the cleaning must be complete, the mind must cease. ceasing simply means to stop conceptualizing in order to be what you are.

[JuliusCaesar]

24 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I'm not sure if there are non toxic thoughts in terms of realizing the self. there may be thoughts that help deconstruct. new thoughts that help soften monolithic thoughts that create limitation. but there comes a time when the cleaning must be complete, the mind must cease. ceasing simply means to stop conceptualizing in order to be what you are.

What will do you to gain clarity in these matters?

 

And not for nothing, but you are what you are regardless of thinking or not thinking. God is God, and God's thoughts are God's thoughts always. Even when that includes God thinking it isn't God.

[Julian gabriel]

U already know what to do ur mind dates u to Do these things all the time like telling that girl u love her or doing another push up or whatever

[YogiCosmos]

Understand that duality and non-duality are the same and part of the same totality. Everything matters. But do not identify with the story.

Edited November 19, 2022 by YogiCosmos