Karma

[Someone here]

I want to describe my interpretation of the mechanics of the Karma system. I believe Karma is definitely similar to an ironic event, it sums up to, do unto others what would be done unto you or as TOOL would say "Do unto others what has been done to you." There's two experiences in reality, birth and death, there's also a belief that reincarnation is real but whether you believe in it or not its really not relevant for consciousness.

The persona is the character or role you play in life, your personality or how you act towards others, It's pretty much an act. The persona is illusory to consciousness and makes the mistake of thinking it is actually the persona. I'ts not the ego its just a trickery of the mind, in other words you play different roles through your experience of birth and re-birth. Consciousness is doing this forever, a very repetitious nature, and is quite possible that you may have experience every single persona that ever existed through the eras of time.

You are born into the world and what you do to it will have an impact on you and no one else. Bad Karma is simply, I hurt you, and If you hurt others or harm the world (leaving it in a worst shape than you found it). Eventually you will end up playing the role of the person that you hurt and experience a world that you destroyed. You can relate to this, how many times has someone else made you cry? Good Karma can lead to more good karma. You're born into a world that takes time to understand and you have the power to make someone else's life better and when you die, you did all you could to make the world better for future generations. That's my view of a Karmic system, take from the world put back into it and improve it for your future self.

[viatrufka]

Here are my two cents on Karma. Reincarnation cases done by Stevensson and Tucker, religious cases of posessions and other cases described by Allan Kardec make me believe that although we share the same essence (we are dissociations of Universal Mind as Bernardo Kastrup puts it), we continue our lives after death of physical body - our intelligence and memory continue. If you lived your life as a generally "good person", you won't experience much trauma in your next life. Also you won't experience being a dog after your death as a human, because that wouldn't give you any new experiences essential to "level up". In this view apparently separated parts of Consciousness are on their infinite journey towards complete unification. We are the same spirit, but because of different life experiences we form different souls, which are evolving using bodies as instruments of learning and experiencing life.

Edited November 16, 2022 by viatrufka

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@viatrufka Your POV = mine. Coincidence? I don't think so???

[amanen]

You can be the most horrific person and God will not punish you, because God loves you equally no matter what or who you are. There are no real consequences for anything nor do you have to take on the perspectives of people you have hurt. You don't need to go through the perspectives of all the individual bacteria and plants you have slaughtered in your life either.

[Someone here]

@amanen

Karma had pay off to me for my good deeds

Earlier I used to believe that karma never pays off. God will never punish people till they are alive. He will punish them only after death. But the tragedy is, its just a belief that people either go to hell or heaven. Because no one knows whether hell or heaven exists. Karma has paid off to me

Of course it will but don't get too attached to things. Life is a cycle of joy and sorrow. You can never be happy forever nor will you be sad forever. Even if somebody is going through a terminal illness, in the next life chances are he'll be a very happy person.

This gives a lot of hope. Persevere my friend. Joy is around the corner as we can't see it now. But when you make a turn you'll be surprised. If happiness is temporary, so is sorrow.

Karma takes time to ripen. It waits for the ideal conditions to ripen. You may now feel the effects of something you did a decade ago because the ideal conditions have formed now.

And sometimes you do something today and you see the results tomorrow because the conditions are perfect to balance your deeds, both good ones and bad ones.

[Breakingthewall]

Id say that karma is desire. the more you desire, the more you are tied to your avatar. If you want to free yourself, you must release karma, that is, stop desiring. if you don't wish, nothing bad can happen to you since something "bad" means something that contradicts your wish. to be completely free of karma is to be indifferent. when you realize that one thing is equal to anything else and you live according to it. there is no difference between being alive or dead. then you are immortal

 

[Someone here]

Karma simply means gift for your deeds. If you do good deeds you are rewarded well but if you do bad deeds you are punished.

Karma is something that follows you until many lifetimes. I good example of karma across lifetimes will be :

A child who is born to a king will eventually be a king. That child will live a lavish life with all riches and comforts. But the child has done nothing to get it. This is the child’s past life karma.

Similarly, a child who is born to a pauper will have a life full of struggles, pain and sufferings without any fault of the child. This is also the child’s past life karma.

[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, Someone here said:

child who is born to a king will eventually be a king. That child will live a lavish life with all riches and comforts. But the child has done nothing to get it. This is the child’s past life karma.

Similarly, a child who is born to a pauper will have a life full of struggles, pain and sufferings without any fault of the child. This is also the child’s past life karma.

That's right, but if you think about it, it doesn't make sense. you are the absolute and you are experiencing the limited for a reason. for you to be a prince is nothing. That all the models want to get into your bed and have yachts does not mean anything, you could become an entity that dominates galaxies with your will and that your nervous system encompasses the entire universe feeling a symphony of cosmic perfection creating oceans of life, for example. being a prince or a beggar is exactly the same. It's an experience, and that's it. the end of karma is to realize that there is no difference between one thing or the other. 

Edited November 17, 2022 by Breakingthewall

[Someone here]

15 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

That's right, but if you think about it, it doesn't make sense. you are the absolute and you are experiencing the limited for a reason. for you to be a prince is nothing. That all the models want to get into your bed and have yachts does not mean anything, you could become an entity that dominates galaxies with your will and that your nervous system encompasses the entire universe feeling a symphony of cosmic perfection creating oceans of life, for example. being a prince or a beggar is exactly the same. It's an experience, and that's it. the end of karma is to realize that there is no difference between one thing or the other. 

Well said ? 

[Kuba Powiertowski]

@Breakingthewall true