Recipe for Success in Life

[Heart of Space]

The simple version.  I'm very successful, here it is;

Get a damn education.  Like one that your parents approve of.  Not social studies please.  Engineers to the front.  

Save your money a bit.  Invest maximum 401K matching at your Job.  

Be disciplined/take full responsibility for your life.  If your male, find something to live for other than jerking it to porn.  

There you go, I saved you from all the bullshit.  If you're in America enjoy being a part of the global elite that everyone is annoyed of.   

And uh, if you train wreck your life, don't give up.  I know a little bit about getting massively off track in life and then making a big come back. 

 

Foundational personal finance advice:

Loans and credit should only be used as a form of investment for your future.  

This means loans for education, vehicle to get to work/school, a house, and in case of emergency medical bills.  

Edited November 7, 2022 by Heart of Space

[Ninja_pig]

Seems easy enough

[Heart of Space]

On 11/6/2022 at 11:37 PM, Ninja_pig said:

Seems easy enough

It's a massive oversimplification, but it never hurts to hear the basics reiterated from someone that knows what's what.  

[MarkKol]

On 11/7/2022 at 3:47 AM, Heart of Space said:

Engineers to the front.  

What do you mean by that?

[Majed]

@Heart of Space What do you mean by invest maximum 401k matching at your job 

[Phil King]

52 minutes ago, MarkKol said:

What do you mean by that?

I assume he means get an engineering degree as it provides one with actual valuable real world skills

 

[Heart of Space]

@Majed If you're in the US there's an option where you can put money into your retirement account, a 401K.  Your employer will match your contribution up to a certain percent.  Put the maximum allowable percentage as it is free money that is tax free when you can pull it out.  

It is just a wise move that smart fathers tell their children.  People often do not do this out of greed.  It is long term thinking and people want their money now.  

@MarkKol Engineering is just one of the most consistent and lucrative degrees you can get today.  Great jobs, you're basically guaranteed a six figure income if you have a decent career strategy.  Basically, I was just trying to imply to get a degree with high paying jobs in its field.  Getting a degree cause you're interested in 'X' is a massively overrated idea.  Trust me on that.  A job is a job.  Engineers jobs are not as hard as you think.  

If you decide to get a degree in say 'biology' because I like biology you'll find that you're not that extra passionate about the job involved.  Jobs are often tedious and repetitive no matter what the field.  Just go for the money.  

Obviously, an engineering degree is difficult to get, that's a consideration too.  Ask yourself:

1) Am I smart enough and disciplined enough to get the degree?

Their are other options for you if you're not capable enough to get it.  I do believe with proper discipline anyone who is average and higher can get a degree like that.  

Are you a little less academic capable?  Their are options.  For example, nurses make a ton of money with travel contracts and it's a two year degree.  

Edited November 8, 2022 by Heart of Space

[Heart of Space]

Okay, maybe the engineering degree is too much for people.  Understandable, a lot of mathematics.

But there are a plethora of 2 year degrees out their that you can get at your local community college that are relatively easy to get and net you about 40 to 80 thousand a year.  

Just be wise with your money.  Perhaps partner up with someone also making decent money to take a little financial pressure off you.  

Edited November 8, 2022 by Heart of Space

[Heart of Space]

Another important good strategy.  

Take your absolute sweet time meandering through easy classes at your local community college, maybe work part time.  Bum rent of your parents if you can as long as you can.  Time often is the antidote to lack of discipline or motivation.  If you wait longer until you fully commit to school, you'll likely handle better.  

Getting into a college at 18 and going through a difficult degree is often a huge mistake.  It's okay to take a long time, or till you're even like 28 to finish a degree.  Seriously, it's overrated to stress over the valedictorian strategy of graduating at 24 with a doctorate or something.  

Just don't compare yourself with the best, take your time, use your parents (make it up to them later in life).  Just be smart and use your twenties to get a meaningful education and strategy for your life.   

No one is going to read this, but there's a few meaningful great pieces of advice in this thread.  

Edited November 8, 2022 by Heart of Space

[sholomar]

Read this thread. It's not mine but good advice.

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5280710/pg1

It's perfectly possible to be totally content doing nothing in life with the right perspective and mindset. Jed McKenna mostly lives that type of lifestyle with his small group of followers. That guy strikes me as a guy who would have been an incel had he not reached the void state and come back to talk about it and write books about it.  I don't think he actually reached true enlightenment as described by David Hawkins by the way... seems to me his books talk about the path of intellect, which David Hawkins calls "the void."  It's also mentioned by Gary Renard.. the state of no mind versus the state of oneness.

The line between someone who has "success" and someone who doesn't really isn't that obvious, and much of it is a mind game. A person can be quite rich and quite unhappy. Look at how many wealthy celebrities end up overdosing and dying. Mindset is the first big thing to work on. Habits are the next.

Leo has so many videos on this subject... the happiness spectrum is one of the best... you can be happy with hedonism but as you get older will you be able to stay content that you spent your life chasing hedonism over eudimonia?  That's the tricky question.  Does it really matter what you do? Bottom line, it matters to you.

Edited November 10, 2022 by sholomar

[Heart of Space]

@sholomar  It is truly foolish to suggest to anyone that this is a valid way of life.  

Most people are going to want to live in society with all its benefits and comforts.  I just provided the easiest and most obvious beeline to providing a life for yourself.  

The wise thing to do is to copy my strategy and then later in life you have far more options for chasing spirituality.  

I'm truly flabbergasted that anyone would recommend being a spiritual vagrant to anyone.  Those who do that, don't need advice on it.  They have some special calling for it, like Jed Mckenna.  Don't recommend that way of life to anyone.  

[Heart of Space]

9 hours ago, KH2 said:

Why? Because you think so? Society needs all kinds of slaves to make it function, not just engineers.

Besides, it's not like you're gonna be fucking swimming, or bathing in gold once you have an engineering job. 80k/100k is a very decent salary yes, but many other jobs offer the same ammount - and it's not like you're gonna be just chillin' and doin' nothing, I consider engineering to be a pretty stressfull, highly demanding job, since you have to meet a lot of deadlines, and have to know what you're doing, making sure everything works.

Not saying other job are much different, or that you SHOULDN'T expect to work hard to earn money in whatever you're doing, not at all. Just sayin', this oversimplification of yours, and weird preference for engineering, doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Lol 80k for engineering?  Try 160k plus 10% bonus, and a yearly cost of living raise around 3.5 to 4%.  Not everyone will achieve this, obviously, but what the hell is wrong with an 80k minimum???  

Using words like slave to describe successful educated people shows that you're angry and jaded.  Probably unsuccessful.

Instead of hating, maybe tell me where you struggle.  I may have good advice.

Edited November 11, 2022 by Heart of Space

[something_else]

On 07/11/2022 at 2:47 AM, Heart of Space said:

Get a damn education.  Like one that your parents approve of.  Not social studies please.  Engineers to the front.  

Many people go to uni/college for the social aspect rather than the education. I don't think that's bad either. Having top notch social skills and connections will likely get you much further in life than an engineering degree. I'd swap my First class CS degree for top tier charisma and social skills in a heartbeat.

Plenty of people are also content being nurses, social care workers, psychologists etc. and find that very fulfilling even if they don't pay exceptionally well.

It depends what you want out of life.

Edited November 11, 2022 by something_else

[Heart of Space]

58 minutes ago, KH2 said:

Vehicle, house and medical bills are all liabilities, not investments. Education can be an investment, but that highly depends on the type of education. If you're not attending top colleges for professions where degree is absolutely necessary, then most colleges are fucking useless, and you'd gain a lot more experience working the type of jobs you want, expanding your "actual experience portfolio", rather than wasting away your young years, running around with a bunch of lazy unambitious drunk dickheads.

Furthermore, if you can't buy vehicle in cash, then don't take loans, that's stupid. Medical bills are obviously exception, but you still shouldn't take loans for them unless you have to (and it would make you a little bit of a dickhead anyway, not being responsible enough to be able to pay for your own medical bills). House can also be an exception, but if you can afford it, you should also pay in cash.

Thanks for the proper accounting term, problem is no one here is an accountant.

Investment in your future as in only use loans when necessary for your continued prosperity and survival.  Better description?

A house is considered an investment.  It gains value over time.

Edited November 11, 2022 by Heart of Space

[Heart of Space]

@KH2 you're a complete fool.  

Seems the basic strategy of getting a degree in a lucrative field was too much for you to handle emotionally.  Next.

[Realms of Wonder]

Don’t be toxic to eachother. 
 

Do your best to understand where they are coming from, it does not need to be an argument.

[something_else]

52 minutes ago, KH2 said:

Bro, if I had your opinions, I would be ashamed to be seen in public?

It's unbelievable how some you guys can just say the most "out-of-this-world" shit, like blacks have lower IQ than whites, women this women that, "engineering to the front", and then going on with your day as if nothing happened, with no shame. I'd be fucking ashamed

Normally I'd disagree with something targeted like this, but I'm like 95% sure the dude is a troll from that thread about race IQ, so who cares

Edited November 11, 2022 by something_else

[julienw]

@Heart of Space Don't know why people are disagreeing with you. You have some great advice. Sitting around tripping on acid to try to become enlightened at 22 instead of pursuing some career success in a strategic way is basically a great way to completely fuck up your life forever. It makes perfect sense to get your ducks in a row and set yourself up for a comfortable life. Not to mention this is pretty much Leo's advice for young people as well. To be fair if you are saying things like black people genetically have lower IQ than white people and anti-woman shit, than you might want to revisit those ideas and question where you got those ideas, your life advice notwithstanding.

[integral]

@KH2 why are you emotionally effected by other peoples arrogance? 

[integration journey]

@Heart of SpaceI actually like  your advice. How do we sign up for more ? ?❤️