Elon Musk Twitter Trainwreck Mega-Thread

[something_else]

28 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

What Elon should've done (in my highly uneducated opinion) is what Facebook did when they re-branded to Meta, which is to change the company name to X and keep Twitter as it is. He could've then created an "X" app or whatever and made Twitter a sub-part of that, allowing the user to access Twitter through that app while also being able to use the other functionalities Not sure how successful that would be, but it still would've been infinitely better than what he did.

I think Musk is dealing with some sort of sunken-cost situation where he’s spent such a mind-boggling amount of money on Twitter that he’s now incapable of making rational business decisions for the company

Edited July 27, 2023 by something_else

[Dauntment]

My input: Elon Musk has his track record, everyone else (here) has their OPINIONS; I think it could be fairly and accurately said that he is operating on a level/scale that no one here could comprehend.

A) There are the people that are in the field

B) There are people on the sideline (who have never been on the field) talking about the people in the field

 

Lol..........

[Leo Gura]

@Dauntment It's clear that Musk is extremely inexperienced in designing social media platforms and that his ego makes him ignore sound principles and advice from people who actually understand the industry.

Musk is not playing any kind of 3D chess here. Destroying a well established brand to chase some pipe dream of a Chinese all-in-one super app is a huge gamble and makes little sense.

It's clear that Musk is flailing around and throwing stuff at the wall just to see what sticks, and nothing is sticking.

Edited July 27, 2023 by Leo Gura

[hoodrow trillson]

2 hours ago, Dauntment said:

My input: Elon Musk has his track record, everyone else (here) has their OPINIONS; I think it could be fairly and accurately said that he is operating on a level/scale that no one here could comprehend.

A) There are the people that are in the field

B) There are people on the sideline (who have never been on the field) talking about the people in the field

 

Lol..........

Yeah no lol.  What a joke.

If you rewind everything back, Elon thought he was going to be a funny edgy 4 the lulz troll by offering to buy Twitter as a flex and then he tried to back out but… sorry!  Law says you have to buy it.  Put up or shut up.  So he was forced to buy it.  Self own.

So, from a conceptual level what your saying isn’t even true at all and falls flat on it’s face.  He’s never owned a social media company, much less a large one like Twitter.

It takes an idiot to realize another is an idiot.  That we can agree on lol.  So in your case, I’d be concerned on putting us idiots on the “sidelines” like we can’t see what’s really going on lol.

[StarStruck]

People said the same about Tesla that it would never work and that it was a pipe dream and they were all proven wrong. Now everybody and their mother is driving an electric car. The same with PayPal and with his other endeavors that changed paradigms of the world. He is a pionier so he is used to people talking smack. It is part of the business. 

Edited July 27, 2023 by StarStruck

[Leo Gura]

@StarStruck Take a look at his solar roofs. They were a flop. He has plenty of bad ideas.

Edited July 27, 2023 by Leo Gura

[StarStruck]

26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@StarStruck Take a look at his solar roofs. They were a flop. He has plenty of bad ideas.

Nobody is super human. He makes mistakes. If he didn’t dare to make mistakes he wouldn’t be one of the most successful people on earth. He has a shit ton of money. What else is he doing to do other than to dare his fortune? He can afford to make mistakes.  

[Bobby_2021]

The "Everything App" is the next big thing definitely. This is what Meta and Zuck is working on as well. 

I personally do not see a reason why people need to go to YouTube to watch videos. There are many individual creators who built audiences on Twitter who do not have a YouTube channel nor the audience on YT.

Twitter spaces and videos are focusing exactly on this. Even YouTube has enable community posts were people can post things similar to what we post on Twitter and Instagram with pictures and captions. So things are moving in the direction of an everything App. 

[something_else]

2 hours ago, StarStruck said:

People said the same about Tesla that it would never work and that it was a pipe dream and they were all proven wrong. Now everybody and their mother is driving an electric car. The same with PayPal and with his other endeavors that changed paradigms of the world. He is a pionier so he is used to people talking smack. It is part of the business. 

When Tesla and his previous endeavours gained success he seemed far more mentally stable and rational

[something_else]

22 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

The "Everything App" is the next big thing definitely. This is what Meta and Zuck is working on as well. 

I personally do not see a reason why people need to go to YouTube to watch videos. There are many individual creators who built audiences on Twitter who do not have a YouTube channel nor the audience on YT.

Twitter spaces and videos are focusing exactly on this. Even YouTube has enable community posts were people can post things similar to what we post on Twitter and Instagram with pictures and captions. So things are moving in the direction of an everything App. 

It's really hard to do everything well. If you look at Twitch and YT as an example, in theory both should be able to do exactly what each other do successfully. But they can't. Why is that?

Or YT and TikTok. YouTube has tried to enter the TikTok space with shorts but it failed pretty badly. Why is that?

Massively scaled tech companies like this often need to specialise, it's very hard to do everything well at such a large scale.

Let's say it's even possible to create a successful everything app; musk fired 80% of his staff. And on top of that, I expect a lot of his most experienced devs probably quit anyway. Musk's companies have a reputation for being a toxic place to work. These experienced devs would be the kind of people who could switch to any other big tech company and get a high paying job in a hearbeat so there is little incentive for them to stay at Twitter.

[Leo Gura]

59 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

Nobody is super human. He makes mistakes. If he didn’t dare to make mistakes he wouldn’t be one of the most successful people on earth. He has a shit ton of money. What else is he doing to do other than to dare his fortune? He can afford to make mistakes.  

Except the difference now is that he is not willing to spend any more of his money on Twitter. If he was willing to throw in another $10-$20 billion then maybe he'd have a chance to succeed in this crazy idea.

And also, anti-wokeness and Twitter have rottened his mind over the last 10 years. He has not been making sound decisions recently. He's clearly got a lot of ego wrapped up in this unlike his previous ventures.

Edited July 27, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Bobby_2021]

1 hour ago, something_else said:

It's really hard to do everything well. If you look at Twitch and YT as an example, in theory both should be able to do exactly what each other do successfully. But they can't. Why is that?

Making an idea successful is all about the specifics. It has to do with how much the user base is emotionally addicted to the platform that they will resist hopping to a new app, when they can conveniently have the same feature without hopping.

-----

Take the case for short form content. 

Instagram is addictive that YT. That's why reels became somewhat successful and YT shorts did not. YT is full of devoted professionals making videos whereas twitter has a lot of semi professionals and professionals making content.

And it is so easy to make content by typing whatever you want on twitter rather than making videos on YT. 

So if your favourite creator posts a video on twitter as opposed to YouTube, you are much more likely to stay on twitter and watch it. This has been my experience since I follow numerous small creators. They simply cannot fly off on YT. 

Users need to feel closer to the creator to prevent them from switching apps. Twitter is in a good position to do that. 

Edited July 27, 2023 by Bobby_2021

[Recursoinominado]

1 hour ago, StarStruck said:

Nobody is super human. He makes mistakes. If he didn’t dare to make mistakes he wouldn’t be one of the most successful people on earth. He has a shit ton of money. What else is he doing to do other than to dare his fortune? He can afford to make mistakes.  

Trump is also super-rich.

Contemplate that.

[Danioover9000]

Lex Fridman comments on the new brand design. Fan bou simp written allover:

 

[Yimpa]

On 7/27/2023 at 2:54 AM, Leo Gura said:

@StarStruck Take a look at his solar roofs. They were a flop. He has plenty of bad ideas.

You might be interested in this video that came out yesterday.

 

[Danioover9000]

@Yimpa

4 hours ago, Yimpa said:

You might be interested in this video that came out yesterday.

 

   Sorry, but you'll never replace classic roofing tiles on houses.