VICE: US Military’s problem with extremism

[Thought Art]

 

[Danioover9000]

@Thought Art

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

 

   My first impressions: It's VICE, a biased alternative media source, that doesn't care for age restricting, censoring graphic content, and doesn't care to leave a warning or disclaimer when a subject matter contains graphic content of violence, physical attacks, drugs, even sexual imagery. If you don't believe me, check some of their videos.

   It's also biased towards socialistic and progressive thinking, so while it shares content that shares values with SD orange to green, it definitely has blind spots towards the lower tiers and higher tiers. 

[Stovo]

There's a certain appeal to the military for those on the right because they're more likely to have a strong sense of nationalism and be willing to die for that cause. 

If you're in a war you'd be grateful to have the far right in your military, they're some of the toughest fighters.

[Thought Art]

@Stovo Unless it's a civil war due to a massive break down of epistemological cohesion and corruption in society...

Edited November 4, 2022 by Thought Art

[Stovo]

If America had a civil war it would likely be won by the right because they control most of the countryside, most of the guns, and have the toughest fighters. 

But the majority of the right is not far right. 

The left could counter this by getting tougher and trying to win over the moderates. The problem is progressives are stuck in cities like LA and NYC and don't have a clue how the world works.

[Thought Art]

3 hours ago, Stovo said:

. The problem is progressives are stuck in cities like LA and NYC and don't have a clue how the world works.

Weird statement 

[Danioover9000]

@Thought Art

22 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

Weird statement 

   No, it's a reasonable assumption:

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[Danioover9000]

@Stovo

14 hours ago, Stovo said:

There's a certain appeal to the military for those on the right because they're more likely to have a strong sense of nationalism and be willing to die for that cause. 

If you're in a war you'd be grateful to have the far right in your military, they're some of the toughest fighters.

   Of course, it all depends on the stage of development, cognitive and moral development, personality type and psychological development, ego development, states of consciousness, life experiences and other lines of development. Typically, most extremists' groups are attracted to SD red/blue values and groups more so than SD orange/green/yellow/turquoise, 

[Thought Art]

@Danioover9000 So, your not saying that living outside a city makes you understand how the world works?

[Danioover9000]

@Thought Art

26 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Danioover9000 So, your not saying that living outside a city makes you understand how the world works?

   Can you simplify your question a bit more?

   Also, you're*.

[Danioover9000]

@Thought Art

   Don't you see the issue that this alternative media is doing? There are no warnings or disclaimers on their videos of any graphic content, physical attacks or violent imagery of wounds, drugs, gun violence and so on. They also don't age restrict any of their video that breaks TOS in YouTube, like this video:

   Has no warnings or disclaimers of showing a knife wound, twice, which was the result of a violent attack. That's fucking graphic content, and the video ain't got no warnings or disclaimers in the description and in the video, or is age restricted, literally any person too young checks the video, gets the sighting of the graphic content. VICE IS IRESPONSIBLE AND SHOULD PUT WARNINGS IN DESCRIPTION/VIDEO, AGE RESTRICT, CENCOR THE KNIFE WOUND, TAKE DOWN THE VIDEO, OR FACE REPURCUSSIONS. 

[Danioover9000]

@Thought Art

On 2022-11-03 at 8:35 PM, Thought Art said:

 

   Also am surprised that they also don't give disclaimers or warnings, in the description or video itself, of showing imagery of radical hate groups and hate speech and violent use of guns, or age restrict this video. WTF IS WRONG WITH VICE?

[Thought Art]

@Danioover9000 Blame vice for what others do lol. Vice is the problem ahaha

Those are interesting critiques for sure. But, that’s Vice…

Sounds like your offended by them showing the reality of these Militia. 

Edited November 5, 2022 by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

On 2022-11-04 at 7:46 PM, Danioover9000 said:

@Thought Art

   Also, you're*.

I’m not interested in speaking to people on the forum who behave in this way. Spelling on this forum is casual and I’m not going to spell check every little thing. 
 

No longer responding to you in this thread.

[Heart of Space]

This is extremely biased reporting.  Ex-soldiers gathering with spooky looking black rifles and some intimidating dark synth music in the background.  

And then of course, make sure to conflate Nazi images with the footage to make them look evil.  

The description of events sounds like it was done by a young cute noodley armed hipster who resents his conservative Christian parents.  

Edit:  Watched a little further and there is a huge problem of conflating a bunch of events and people into one big homogenous group known as right wing 'extremists.'  It lacks nuance quite a bit. 

Edited November 6, 2022 by Heart of Space

[Danioover9000]

@Thought Art

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

@Danioover9000 Blame vice for what others do lol. Vice is the problem ahaha

Those are interesting critiques for sure. But, that’s Vice…

Sounds like your offended by them showing the reality of these Militia. 

   Actually, offended for how they handled their videos in general, not being responsible for issuing warnings and disclaimers that warrant warnings and disclaimers in the description box and/or video edited clip, if the subject matter at hand is violent, graphic, dealing with drugs, and so on that need to be age restricted or parts that need censoring.

   The video you posted about paramilitary and how some of the alt right extremists are recruiting ex-military members, is actually good reporting. Yes, it's socialistic/progressive biased, and has anti mainstream bias as well, but I think this reporting is over all a good coverage, albeit if I had enough time and energy, I could point out flaws here and there with their reporting, plus technical issues, like again, NO DISCLAIMERS AND WARNINGS FOR COVERING RADICALISTIC TOPIC AND POTENTIAL VIOLENT USE OF GUNS. Or something like that.

[Danioover9000]

@Thought Art

18 hours ago, Thought Art said:

I’m not interested in speaking to people on the forum who behave in this way. Spelling on this forum is casual and I’m not going to spell check every little thing. 
 

No longer responding to you in this thread.

   Sorry, I am special like that, so I can't help but nitpick. If English is not your main language, warn me beforehand so I can be gentle or ignore the grammar and spelling issues.

   Update: THEY FINALLY LISTENED TO ME! YOUTUBE, FOR 3 WEEKS, FINALLY ADDRESSED THE REPORTED VIDEO!!!?

On 2022-11-04 at 11:04 PM, Danioover9000 said:

@Thought Art

   Don't you see the issue that this alternative media is doing? There are no warnings or disclaimers on their videos of any graphic content, physical attacks or violent imagery of wounds, drugs, gun violence and so on. They also don't age restrict any of their video that breaks TOS in YouTube, like this video:

   Has no warnings or disclaimers of showing a knife wound, twice, which was the result of a violent attack. That's fucking graphic content, and the video ain't got no warnings or disclaimers in the description and in the video, or is age restricted, literally any person too young checks the video, gets the sighting of the graphic content. VICE IS IRESPONSIBLE AND SHOULD PUT WARNINGS IN DESCRIPTION/VIDEO, AGE RESTRICT, CENCOR THE KNIFE WOUND, TAKE DOWN THE VIDEO, OR FACE REPURCUSSIONS. 

 

Edited November 6, 2022 by Danioover9000

[Thought Art]

6 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Thought Art

   Sorry, I am special like that, so I can't help but nitpick. If English is not your main language, warn me beforehand so I cn be gentle or ignore the grammar and spelling issues.

 

 

That kind of special is called being a jerk. 

It’s not “cn” it’s “can”. Let me know if English isn’t your first language and I’ll go a bit easier on you. I know spelling “can” is pretty hard for some people. Some people “can’t’”.

It’s called a typo.

It was a useless critique of a typo. It doesn’t make you look smart when you do that, just rude. I understand the the proper grammar of your vs You’re. 
 

What do you do go around the forum pointing out everyone’s spelling and grammar mistakes but your own? 

Edited November 6, 2022 by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

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