Enlightenment Bullshit

[Kuba Powiertowski]

There are so-called 'inner engineering technologies" like Kriya Yoga, i.e., that give you tools that make it possible. But first, you must detach yourself from the assumption that the only useful tools are psychedelics.

[Gesundheit2]

41 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Gesundheit2 Yeah, but those are just ideas. 

They're ideas, but not just.

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Gesundheit2 said:

It's really not that hard to know.

You are God:

1. You: The ego, the person, the center of experience, etc.
2. Are: Verb of being, reference to existence, state of being, etc.
3. God: The magical uncaused superpower that underlies all of reality.

No need for speculation. Just connect the dots and this will become obvious in all of his communications.

I mean, I haven't experienced that much psychedelics.

[Gesundheit2]

21 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I mean, I haven't experienced that much psychedelics.

I don't think I quite get your point. Personally, I haven't experienced any psychedelics, at all. And I have better clarity and deeper (though not necessarily broader) understanding than Leo, regardless of what Leo might say about this. I just don't flaunt my understanding and clarity all the time like he does. I have it but I simply don't cling to it, cuz I don't have any stakes in this game, I don't make any money or get any good feelings out of being spiritually superior.

[Sincerity]

1 hour ago, Gesundheit2 said:

It's really not that hard to know.

You are God:

1. You: The ego, the person, the center of experience, etc.
2. Are: Verb of being, reference to existence, state of being, etc.
3. God: The magical uncaused superpower that underlies all of reality.

I propose your interpretation is not accurate.

My suggestion would be:

1. You: God, Consciousness, Reality, Infinity, YOU
2. Are: =
3. God: God, Consciousness, Reality, Infinity, YOU

It's not that hard to know (= be that) when you already know it (= are that).

The highest understanding must come (and does come) from being. Not intellectual knowledge.

[Carl-Richard]

49 minutes ago, Gesundheit2 said:

I don't think I quite get your point. Personally, I haven't experienced any psychedelics, at all. And I have better clarity and deeper (though not necessarily broader) understanding than Leo, regardless of what Leo might say about this. I just don't flaunt my understanding and clarity all the time like he does. I have it but I simply don't cling to it, cuz I don't have any stakes in this game, I don't make any money or get any good feelings out of being spiritually superior.

Flaunting or not, Leo says you have to do a ton of psychedelics to understand what he means by God-realization. I haven't done much of that, and I don't doubt that doing psychedelics at that scale will crack your head open in some way or another. I just don't know exactly how. I can tell you a lot about meditation, but not about that.

Edited October 30, 2022 by Carl-Richard

[Thought Art]

@Carl-Richard Psychedelics reveal so much that can’t be explained or put into words. 
 

Like, literally walls turning into aztec phases and becoming one with your friends lol

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Thought Art said:

@Carl-Richard Psychedelics reveal so much that can’t be explained or put into words. 
 

Like, literally walls turning into aztec phases and becoming one with your friends lol

I have experienced psychedelics, but not 300 times up my ass 

[Thought Art]

@Carl-Richard Try it

5meo is like nothing else. It’s almost too good to be true. 

Edited October 30, 2022 by Thought Art

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Thought Art said:

@Carl-Richard Try it

5meo is like nothing else. It’s almost too good to be true. 

Bruh, first I gotta learn to handle my sober state lol

[Thought Art]

@Carl-Richard haha, yes. 
 

There’s no rush with any of these things.

Which, is why I think calling stuff like mindfulness and Buddhism bullshit is none sense. People need to get there sober foundations.

But, mushrooms I found really excelled my menta health work

[vladorion]

Quote

How you feel and your energy is irrelevant to comprehension of reality.

It is extremely relevant.

How you feel and your energy is an indication of whether you're embodying your insights or is it just a head trip.

[Leo Gura]

11 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

I'm just saying how it is. If your source of comprehension of reality mainly comes from a drug experience which severely alters your state, then of course how you feel in your baseline state is not as relevant.

How you feel is relevant for life. It just isn't relevant for comprehension or Truth.

[Leo Gura]

23 minutes ago, vladorion said:

It is extremely relevant.

How you feel and your energy is an indication of whether you're embodying your insights or is it just a head trip.

Embodiment is not strictly relevant to comprehension. This is again one of those classic Buddhist dogmas and errors.

There are many things you can comprehend without being able to embody it. For example, you can understand what an orgasm is without walking around in a constant state of orgasm. The demand that people can only claim to know orgasm if they are constantly orgasming, is an error. A common error you guys make here.

You cannot embody something you haven't even awoken to yet. The thing you are trying embody is not even God-Realization because you haven't even realized God yet.

It's like you are a gorilla trying to embody Tiger Woods, but your club hasn't even contacted a golf ball yet. How about you start with just hitting the ball once?

Edited October 31, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Carl-Richard]

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Embodiment is not strictly relevant to comprehension. This is again one of those classic Buddhist dogmas and errors.

There are many things you can comprehend without being able to embody it. For example, you can understand what an orgasm is without walking around in a constant state of orgasm. The demand that people can only claim to know orgasm if they are constantly orgasming, is an error. A common error you guys make here.

You cannot embody something you haven't even awoken to yet. The thing you are trying embody is not even God-Realization because you haven't even realized God yet.

It's like you are a gorilla trying to embody Tiger Woods, but your club hasn't even contacted a golf ball yet. How about you start with just hitting the ball once?

You're assuming the embodied state is the same thing as the glimpse.

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

You're assuming the embodied state is the same thing as the glimpse.

You are.

And that's a serious error.

Edited October 31, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Thought Art]

Thought art ignored

[vladorion]

I don't care how much you understood in your trips if your life doesn't reflect it.

[Leo Gura]

And understanding does not care about what you care about.

Edited October 31, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura Okay lock it if this is all your gonna do. 
 

I’ll just do the work and contemplate. I’d like to get a full fucking God Realization. I’ve had some awakenings. However, I don’t know yet. I have many more to have. 
 

I also need to contemplate more, and more deeply. I’ve got a list of thousands of questions to dive into. Watching your latest episode. I hope it inspires me. So I’m in your story telling opening. 
 

Lock this is you want.