5-MEO-DMT vs. 5-MEO-MALT

[EmergentUniverse]

So....

I've never experienced either of these, but will have the opportunity to experience MALT in the near future. I've read other forums etc., but I do honestly feel that this might be the best place to ask this question:  What would any experienced users here describe as the difference between the two; also, if MALT is my first of any "true" DMT experience (outside of psilocin and it's prodrugs) what guidance might be given? My psychedelic experiences include LSD and mushrooms thus far. Thank you for anyone's time, energy, and willingness to respond.

[thepixelmonk]

 

[Breakingthewall]

As I told you before, I have little experience with malt, I only did it twice, but it seemed completely different to me. 5 meo dmt takes you straight to infinity. It doesn't matter if you're in a bad mood, in an uncomfortable place, any set and setting. malt, the first time it made any dirt in my house unbearable. As soon as the effect wore off, I spent two hours frantically cleaning. the second time, with only 12 mg snorted (this in DMT is really weak dose), I had a horrible experience. I was dating a girl, I knew she would want a relationship, I made it clear that I don't, even so we date for sex. deep down it was not something fair. well, as soon as the malt hit me, the whole reality was: break that relationship immediately. the feeling increased until it reached a point where my whole being was concentrated in a point of anguish. I left my house (difficult) and I staggered down the street walking nonstop, suffering greatly for an hour. I thought I could have a heart attack and I didn't care. I just wanted the punishment to stop. wtf! As soon as I could I put an end to that unbalanced relationship and since then something tells me: no casual sex. bad idea. impure. We'll see what happens the next time I do it, maybe I'll be forced to give all my money or something...that's why I never tried again.  this is my experience, a bit strange. 5 meo dmt is completely different, totally clean, no meanings or ideas, just infinity

Edited October 29, 2022 by Breakingthewall

[Leo Gura]

@Breakingthewall Once you purify all your personal baggage then they will be more similar.

[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Breakingthewall Once you purify all your personal baggage then they will be more similar.

Yeah, i guess so. Working on it

[Breakingthewall]

a while after that message, I wanted to do a test. since the previous time it was hard, I put a small amount, like 6/7 mg. a tiny line, close to invisibility. when it started to go up it was something like 22mg of 5meo dmt in intensity, maybe more. not enough for a total breakthrough but very close. I saw all of reality as an image in my mind about to fade. Suddenly I saw the misery of human love, its conditionality, its falsehood. the love that is given in exchange for something. The almost impossibility of a real human love, because humans have layers and layers of selfishness. I realized the hunger for love that I have as a human, the need to love and be loved. an enormous sexual impulse occurred, that need for love sublimated in sex. the trap that is everything. The difficulty of being selfless, almost impossible. The misery that human life is. It doesn't send me to infinity, but was not far. the effect lasted almost an hour. I think that if it had been 25 mg it would be an overdose like snorting 70 mg of 5 meo dmt, Maybe really dangerous. Be careful with malt, it's extremely powerful

[Breakingthewall]

Today I have done 5 meo dmt. 25 mg snorted. It is the first time that I dare with so much. I have had breakthrough vaping but it is very different. it is an instant. the opening is total, but it immediately passes. snorted goes slowly. It has not been enough, there have been moments of opening to the whole, but most of the time it has been the void. A year ago this terrified me. now nothing, total tranquility. I see how everything is deconstructed, my mother, the smell of lemons, reality. okay, no problem. that there is absolutely nothing? okay. The breath stops and death? okay. then infinity opens, the freedom. but only a little, it hints. lacks a little power. the next will be 30 mg. It has been a very pleasant experience, zero stress, zero expectations, energetic release... totally therapeutic. a pity that tonight I fly for work, if not tomorrow I would go for the 30 mg

Edited October 30, 2022 by Breakingthewall

[OBEler]

@Breakingthewall damn I wish I would be near your level. Thanks for the reports

At least I am not afraid of low doses anymore. No heart beatings

[Breakingthewall]

54 minutes ago, OBEler said:

At least I am not afraid of low doses anymore. No heart beatings

Little by little. What used to terrify me is now nothing. it is a detachment process. each one needs his time, but I think that once you start, the process does not stop

[DrugsBunny]

@Breakingthewall Do you use a trip sitter for your trips? What kind of stuff does your body do during the trip?

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, DrugsBunny said:

@Breakingthewall Do you use a trip sitter for your trips? What kind of stuff does your body do during the trip?

No, i do alone. The only strange thing that my body does is that it seems that you stop breathing and that you could go an indefinite time without breathing without noticing any urgency or reflex. So sometimes the fact of forcing your breath makes you not let go completely, but there comes a point when you forget about it, and the body works on its own. Another thing that happens sometimes is that the legs shake

[Brittle_buddha]

4 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

The only strange thing that my body does is that it seems that you stop breathing and that you could go an indefinite time without breathing without noticing any urgency or reflex. So sometimes the fact of forcing your breath makes you not let go completely, but there comes a point when you forget about it, and the body works on its own. Another thing that happens sometimes is that the legs shake

Ha - - same! I insufflated somewhere between 14 and 19 mg MALT (bedeviled by the low dosage) and was watching the breathing with great curiosity as it seemed like there was no longer a need