Examples Of The Left Going Too Far Left

[Shakazulu]

I thought it would be cool to make a thread of examples on how the left goes too far left. Too much of anything Isn’t good for ya  i found this tweet amusing!!

[trenton]

A couple come to mind.

There were many social justice warriors who broke into the classroom and started shouting Peterson down. I believe that this kind of behavior has made Peterson even more toxic in recent months.

Part of the reason why I used to find the daily site convincing is because of leftist identity politics. Oftentimes there is no serious discussion. It is making blanket judgements based on a person's race. They are not interested in understanding other perspectives.

In my personal experience I was uncomfortable when my college teacher pointed out that I was the only white guy in the room. There is clearly an anti white stereotype and vaush is aware of this.

[Shakazulu]

@trenton these were excellent examples? thank you 

[trenton]

@Shakazulu I used to follow the daily wire. There is a lot of fear mongering about the radical left. It is often overblown, but sometimes there are real examples that feed the right wing. A couple more come to mind. No wonder I used to think the left was insane.

I accidentally put this one on twice. Anyway it is very hypocritical to have a man as a women's rights activist kicking pro life women in the face. Apparently there is a more recent example of a pro choice man punching a pro life women in the face.

 

The anti kavanaugh protests were at best ineffective and at worst a detriment to the left. According to the Washington post some protestors were paid. These protestors banged on the door and left scratch marks. It makes them look kind of crazy. Sometimes the left wing makes a lot of noise in these protests, but it ends up being fruitless until they forget about it next month because of another outrage.

Sometimes it looks like they start all kinds of drama and it doesn't solve anything. This is part of the left wing being overly sensitive. Micro aggressions is another example. Asking "where are you from" could be interpreted as racist. When the left wing is overly sensitive it wants to destroy any symbol of stop any conversation that is Even remotely racist because of some historical context. This made me think the left was crazy when they started destroying statues.

Most importantly, why the left is losing. Antifa has a violent history and harassed a lot of conservatives. I can't find the video I'm thinking of, but there are plenty of examples of antifa violence mentioned in Wikipedia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

[Shakazulu]

@trenton that guy did a muay-thai kick on the camera ? your perspective is accurate. The left can go too far at times ? a lesson to be learned. 

[trenton]

When discussing progressive policies it doesn't help that this face comes to mind for conservatives. These are the people they think of when they hear terms like "socialism." Honestly it looks like college students are too young and immature to be involved in politics. They are very emotionally sensitive and trigger happy.

 if college students didn't treat Peterson this way, maybe he would have become a very effective stage yellow thinker. Now he is probably stuck with his stage green shadow until he dies.

When you tell a conservative that liberals are more cognitively developed them, they will reject spiral dynamics. These are the images they think of when talking about social justice warriors.

[trenton]

There are many examples in feminist hypocrisy. It often devolved into man hating as women convince themselves they are superior. My sister is part of this and our arguments talk past each other. I tried to show her examples of tier two feminism that recognize the excesses of the feminist movement and seek to rise above them. If feminists don't take this approach, then it will be a major detriment to the cause. Many feminists seem arrogant and they don't think through the consequences well enough.

Here are some tier two feminists who are through the hypocrisy.

Toxic forms of feminism seem to be related to late term abortions when women adopt the mindset that they don't want men controlling them. Although understandable, if they don't treat complicated issues with nuance, then it may lead to their rights being taken away. If a woman has six late term abortions and uses the procedure as a contraceptive in the name of exercising her rights, then she might lose her rights.

The excesses late term abortions can be found when you go to Google images abortion babies.  The images may be disturbing so proceed with caution. These images are immediately dismissed as offensive by many on the left, but it isn't hard to see where the conservative is coming from.

Edited October 28, 2022 by trenton

[DocWatts]

12 hours ago, trenton said:

The excesses late term abortions can be found when you go to Google images abortion babies.  The images may be disturbing so proceed with caution. These images are immediately dismissed as offensive by many on the left, but it isn't hard to see where the conservative is coming from.

Sorry, but I feel like I have to chime in here, since there's a ton of disinformation on this topic (not accusing you of intentionally doing so, these misconceptions are common place).

While the Right likes to loves to use this point to emotionally manipulate thier base, in point of fact this is very misleading and not at all representative of how and why people terminate pregnancies in %99 of cases.

The overwhelming majority of abortions happen in the first two trimesters, and of the third term abortions that do happen the majority of those happen for health reasons (either due to the pregnancy being dangerous, or the fetus not being viable for any number of reasons). 

If someone carries a pregnancy for 7 or 8 months they very likely want to have a child, and having to terminate a pregnancy one wants to have is emotionally difficult enough on its own without being demonized as a callous and irresponsible person.

And keep in mind before the Dobbs decision, in the United States abortion was only legally protected during the first two trimesters anyways.

[DocWatts]

Vaush rightly calling out toxic elements on the Left for thier lack of compassion towards the loneliness epidemic that men are experiencing.

He also makes a salient point that people downplaying this issue as an individual rather than a sociological problem are ironically adopting the same victim blaming mentality that reactionaries have weaponized against marginalized people.

 

 

Edited October 28, 2022 by DocWatts

[Leo Gura]

To be fair, most medical procedures look disgusting.

[Willie]

Jihad Rehab is a documentary about Muslim extremists going through the process of re-entering society in Saudi Arabia. It was shown in a couple film festivals and then scrapped due to the cancel culture. Apparently, since the filmmaker is a white American woman, it is automatically a dishonest and dehumanizing representation of these men according to those on the left. 
 

https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/300-a-tale-of-cancellation

[trenton]

@DocWatts this is a good example of hypocrisy from the left. Blaming an individual's moral character is a very myopic way to think about massive issues. The number of men under 30 who don't have sex could be increasing for many reasons.

It could be economic reasons. If it is harder for men to move out and afford house, then it makes sense that more men would stop prioritizing sex. Inflation adds to these economic problems which could distract men from meeting women. It's mean to take a broad brush and assume these men are morally incompetent. Vaush makes a lot of excellent points on this topic.

[Thought Art]

I think a good example is, whenever you criticize something from an identity group you get labeled “phobic”. Just shuts you down and makes you fear for being ostracized and ruined.

[Leo Gura]

Left is Naziphobic 

Edited October 28, 2022 by Leo Gura

[AtheisticNonduality]

 

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[Thought Art]

22 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Left is Naziphobic 

???

[trenton]

1 hour ago, DocWatts said:

Sorry, but I feel like I have to chime in here, since there's a ton of disinformation on this topic (not accusing you of intentionally doing so, these misconceptions are common place).

While the Right likes to loves to use this point to emotionally manipulate thier base, in point of fact this is very misleading and not at all representative of how and why people terminate pregnancies in %99 of cases.

The overwhelming majority of abortions happen in the first two trimesters, and of the third term abortions that do happen the majority of those happen for health reasons (either due to the pregnancy being dangerous, or the fetus not being viable for any number of reasons). 

If someone carries a pregnancy for 7 or 8 months they very likely want to have a child, and having to terminate a pregnancy one wants to have is emotionally difficult enough on its own without being demonized as a callous and irresponsible person.

And keep in mind before the Dobbs decision, in the United States abortion was only legally protected during the first two trimesters anyways.

I am aware that there are problems with these images.

I was talking about late term abortions because I remember that about 95 percent of abortions take place on or before week 20. The right wing often misuses these images to pretend that it represents most abortions and it isn't obvious to people who aren't aware of the true statistics. I understand that this is far from the truth and it doesn't mean all abortions should be banned all the way down to conception.

Considering that most late term abortions take place because of complications during the pregnancy, it now makes sense why people get so enraged by the images. If it wasn't the woman's fault then I can see how much it hurts to starting calling her a baby murderer. The woman is innocent and it isn't her fault when images like these come about. Thanks for explaining that part.

Maybe it is more accurate to say that the left goes too far when they call for "unrestricted late term abortions" rather than "late term abortions". In practice late term abortions are so rare that these images are misleading and emotionally manipulative. The argument against these images is now more clear to me.

Edited October 28, 2022 by trenton

[Tyler Robinson]

I think for people like me who have a strong shadow against the Right, things like these need to be fed in small doses little by little. 

Watching a loaded 3 hour video on why the Left has gone too far can be scary and cause a shock effect which further builds up resistance. 

You can't bombard me overnight to change my perspective that have taken time to gain traction in my brain. 

 

[Florian]

Feels good for me to see this thread.

I think the left in general has definitively gone too far and now its time for a step backwards, preparing for the next two steps foward. 

Also I think people who call Jordan Peterson toxic are delusional. He is a conservative and he is doing his job very well.

[sholomar]

https://nypost.com/2022/04/29/elon-musks-right-the-left-has-gone-insane/

People get stuck in their echo chambers. I make it a point to actively listen to both sides, and I can tell you, the right is not so evil as the left makes them out to be. Most people are fairly moderate, just trying to pick from the lessor of two evils at the polling booth, and the democrats aren't making it very easy right now.  

It doesn't bother me. People are entitled to their beliefs. In the end it's just ego anyways. People with strong emotional positions either way are ego dominated, left or right. I've come to see that as I've had these increasing levels of peace of mind lately. I love the sense of liberation that comes with doing this deprogramming process.

 

"Most people in this country don’t intensely hate anyone who mildly disagrees with them. We generally don’t demand ideological fealty as a prerequisite for friendship (or simple co-existence). We tend to care about the same things: jobs, safety and our kids. And we do believe in equality and forbearance. 

As Musk tweeted Friday: “The far left hates everyone, themselves included!” He followed up with “But I’m no fan of the far right either. Let’s have less hate and more love.”

Edited October 28, 2022 by sholomar