Kanye as the epitome of human intelligence, creativity and character

[petar8p]

1 hour ago, Tyler Robinson said:

That's why I don't consider him intelligent. He is not always honest.

What's correlation between honesty and intelligence?

[Arcangelo]

LOL!

Kanye is mentally ill.

Here is one proof:

 

[Arcangelo]

Mods is it against the guidelines to ask a forum member his/her race?

 

[Tyler Robinson]

21 minutes ago, petar8p said:

What's correlation between honesty and intelligence?

Ok I'll try my best to explain this correlation with whatever is coming up in my mind right now. 

Intelligence comes from the necessity to know and understand the truth. It's the ability to see the truth in everything. Lies can be many. But truth can be only one. Intelligence is dealing with reality. Hate may win some battles. But love wins in the end. Dishonesty and lies may win the battles but truth wins in the end. Intelligence means having foresight. The ability to see what's to come. Intelligence will realize that dishonesty can only take you so far. Whereas truth is eventually going to be the winner since you cannot fight truth or go against it. An intelligent mind knows this through foresight. 

               

Intelligence involves open mindedness. The ability to entertain all perspectives to find the actual truth. This open mindedness comes with the courage to accept criticism, this too with the ultimate intent to know the truth. Courage means fearlessness in the face of backlash. An intelligent mind is not afraid of backlash because it's not concerned with ego, it's not concerned with being proven false, it's not concerned with being right, so it is without fear. We are dishonesty when we fear something like judgement or backlash. An intelligent mind does not fear so it is carefree and so it doesn't need to lie or be dishonest. Dishonesty comes from fearing an outcome, the desire to manipulate and impress. An intelligent mind doesn't see the need to manipulate, cover up or impress. 

              

 

 

An intelligent mind doesn't see the need to hide itself or any other aspect simply because such hiding and lying will cause confusion to the listener and create a lack of transparency between the speaker and the listener. Such confusion can cause the listener to arrive at the truth through dishonest means. When the listener will find that the truth they were lead to was based on lies and dishonesty, they will discard the truth after feeling betrayed and cheated. An intelligent mind will not risk the truth being discarded in such a manner. They will not risk losing the way to truth on a cheap lie. If a woman lied to you and later on told the truth, it will be difficult for everyone to believe her truth, even her truth will be taken as a lie. In the process of fooling others she has fooled herself. An intelligent mind is wise and will not fall in such traps and make such mistakes. 

            

An intelligent mind knows that trust is the foundation of everlasting harmony. In order to create harmony with the listener you need to cultivate and communicate trust. You cannot cultivate or communicate trust with lies and dishonesty. 

 

[Thought Art]

@Arcangelo Did someone ask someone their race?

 

@peebz I thought he was referring to that. It just seems strange in that he was raised Christian. 

[EternalForest]

@Leo Gura Kanye is a musical genius and none of your LOLs can take that away from him. The way you talk about this man truly pisses me off. I respect you a lot, and I respect Kanye a lot, so it hurts me to see you disrespect him like this time and time again.

Edited October 24, 2022 by EternalForest

[AtheisticNonduality]

1 minute ago, EternalForest said:

@Leo Gura Kanye is a musical genius

Maybe.

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Basically he has nothing of value to say.

His rambling on about a disparity between two groups and then claiming that he's a Jew - doesn't really serve a purpose of mending racism. Though he has an above average IQ and a semi-interesting insanity.

 

[EternalForest]

@AtheisticNonduality What does any of that have to do with his musical genius

[AtheisticNonduality]

5 minutes ago, EternalForest said:

@AtheisticNonduality What does any of that have to do with his musical genius

I've never heard any proof of his musical genius.

[Danioover9000]

@EternalForest

4 minutes ago, EternalForest said:

@Leo Gura Kanye is a musical genius and none of your LOLs can take that away from him. The way you talk about this man truly pisses me off. I respect you a lot, and I respect Kanye a lot, so it hurts me to see you disrespect him like this time and time again.

   I agree, it hurts to see Kanye getting this treatment in this forum. This why we have to make it very clear where we are critiquing here: We are critiquing his political and religious views, his mismanagement of his state of mind. We are not critiquing at all his musical talents and skills; he certainly has a lot more to offer for Hip Hop going forward and seeing just general unspecific criticisms at him is a bit disappointing. I also think it has to do with his proximity to Donald Trump, anyone that's near him gets blanketed hate.

   Leo's point still stands though, that Kanye West's purchase of Parler, would likely give him that free space to talk right wing talking points and religion, in a manic way, that would inevitably get him and Parler canceled and silenced one way or the other. So, how do we manage him?

[Danioover9000]

@AtheisticNonduality

1 minute ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

I've never heard any proof of his musical genius.

   Come again? Were you expecting scientific and rigorous sets of evidence to prove Kanye West is musically gifted? Have you even listened to one of his albums, or some songs first beforehand?

[EternalForest]

Just now, AtheisticNonduality said:

I've never heard any proof of his musical genius.

Ask critics, the thousands of artists who were inspired by him, how he changed the sound of music over the 21st century, created new subgenres, etc. etc.

[AtheisticNonduality]

1 minute ago, Danioover9000 said:

@AtheisticNonduality

   Come again? Were you expecting scientific and rigorous sets of evidence to prove Kanye West is musically gifted? Have you even listened to one of his albums, or some songs first beforehand?

I've heard some songs first beforehand, and did not consider them proof - hence my statement "I've never heard any proof of his musical genius." 

[EternalForest]

3 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@EternalForest

   I agree, it hurts to see Kanye getting this treatment in this forum. This why we have to make it very clear where we are critiquing here: We are critiquing his political and religious views, his mismanagement of his state of mind. We are not critiquing at all his musical talents and skills; he certainly has a lot more to offer for Hip Hop going forward and seeing just general unspecific criticisms at him is a bit disappointing. I also think it has to do with his proximity to Donald Trump, anyone that's near him gets blanketed hate.

   Leo's point still stands though, that Kanye West's purchase of Parler, would likely give him that free space to talk right wing talking points and religion, in a manic way, that would inevitably get him and Parler canceled and silenced one way or the other. So, how do we manage him?

You can't "manage" him. He is a maverick who is going to do what he wants to do no matter what anyone else says. I think one comment I saw put it well. He's achieved success in everything he's attempted except politics. So he's doing anything and everything to be successful in it.

[AtheisticNonduality]

2 minutes ago, EternalForest said:

Ask critics, the thousands of artists who were inspired by him, how he changed the sound of music over the 21st century, created new subgenres, etc. etc.

 

[EternalForest]

@AtheisticNonduality ???

[AtheisticNonduality]

I remember Trent Reznor saying something like "his new album sucked, and that's it."

Here it is:

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The guy’s lost his fucking mind: that’s the thinkpiece. His record sucked, and that’s it. He has made great shit; he’s not in a great place right now.

 

[EternalForest]

@AtheisticNonduality Well all that is very true about Kanye atm, you're right on that

[Tyler Robinson]

In my opinion, Ye's best creative piece is the song Heartless. Sung from his heart 

Shows a man's feelings when he is hurt by a woman. Made me cry lol. 

 

The lyrics are bomb. 

 

Heartless

Song by Ye

 

Lyrics

 

In the night I hear 'em talk
The coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road
He lost his soul to a woman so heartless
How could you be so heartless?
Oh, how could you be so heartless?

How could you be so, cold as the winter wind when it breeze, yo
Just remember that you talkin' to me though
You need to watch the way you talkin' to me, yo
I mean after all the things that we've been through
I mean after all the things we got into
Ayo, I know of some things that you ain't told me
Ayo, I did some things, but that's the old me

And now you wanna get me back and you gon' show me
So you walk around like you don't know me
You got a new friend, well, I got homies
But in the end it's still so lonely

In the night I hear 'em talk
The coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road
He lost his soul to a woman so heartless
How could you be so heartless?
Oh, how could you be so heartless?

How could be so Dr. Evil?
You bringin' out a side of me that I don't know
I decided we weren't gon' speak so
Why we up 3:00 a.m. on the phone?
Why do she be so mad at me for?
Homie, I don't know, she's hot and cold
I won't stop, won't mess my groove up
'Cause I already know how this thing go

You run and tell your friends that you're leaving me (hey)
They say that they don't see what you see in me (hey)
You wait a couple months then you gon' see (hey)
You'll never find nobody better than me

In the night I hear 'em talk
The coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road
He lost his soul to a woman so heartless
How could you be so heartless?
Oh, how could you be so heartless?

Talk and talk and talk and talk
Baby let's just knock it off
They don't know what we been through
They don't know 'bout me and you
So I got something new to see
And you just gon' keep hatin' me
And we just gon' be enemies

I know you can't believe
I could just leave it wrong
And you can't make it right
I'm gon' take off tonight
Into the night

In the night I hear 'em talk
The coldest story ever told
Somewhere far along this road
He lost his soul to a woman so heartless
How could you be so heartless?
Oh, how could you be so heartless?

 

 

 

Edited October 24, 2022 by Tyler Robinson

[JTL]

Look at kanye west new friends of  intelligence, creativity and character!!  I sure they love him, smh