A Critique Of Actualized.org And Leo Gura

[Leo Gura]

On 11/3/2022 at 7:18 AM, Inliytened1 said:

@Etherial Cat thought over Love, Being, Oneness (all the same) is falsehood.  Good stuff.  Thought is ego, Being is Oneness.  Pure Being is Omniscience, which is Love.  Which is lack of ego. 

One can reach this level of enlightenment without psychedelics - so Leo's bias has him in error there - but that's OK...that's only because he couldn't reach it himself that way.  So he's wrong about that - it's not impossible- just because most philosophers never did, does not make it impossible.   He should correct that in his latest work.

Ultimately one should leverage Actualized.org as a stepping stone and transcend it like any other model.  I do think the teachings here are superior to any other that I've come across - but still limited and a pointer, which must be transcended by you becoming God

Nobody on this forum is God-Realized.

I'm serious.

Edited November 6, 2022 by Leo Gura

[ThePoint]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Nobody on this forum is God-Realization.

I'm serious.

That might be true, but how do you know that?

[Gesundheit2]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Nobody on this forum is God-Realization.

I'm serious.

???

[Gesundheit2]

On 11/3/2022 at 5:18 PM, Inliytened1 said:

@Etherial Cat thought over Love, Being, Oneness (all the same) is falsehood.  Good stuff.  Thought is ego, Being is Oneness.  Pure Being is Omniscience, which is Love.  Which is lack of ego. 

One can reach this level of enlightenment without psychedelics - so Leo's bias has him in error there - but that's OK...that's only because he couldn't reach it himself that way.  So he's wrong about that - it's not impossible- just because most philosophers never did, does not make it impossible.   He should correct that in his latest work.

Ultimately one should leverage Actualized.org as a stepping stone and transcend it like any other model.  I do think the teachings here are superior to any other that I've come across - but still limited and a pointer, which must be transcended by you becoming God

Looks like someone is going to lose their badge soon.

[eos_nyxia]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Nobody on this forum is God-Realization.

I'm serious.

There's only room for one king at the top of that throne, hey?

[Leo Gura]

21 hours ago, ThePoint said:

That might be true, but how do you know that?

When you Awaken, you'll know.

[Pudgey]

You cannot realize your balls is imaginary without psychedelics. 

[vladorion]

1 hour ago, Pudgey said:

You cannot realize your balls is imaginary without psychedelics. 

Stop parroting Leo.

[Pudgey]

12 minutes ago, vladorion said:

Stop parroting Leo.

Stop parroting me. 

Better twice, why do I keep hitting feelings about psychedelic? 

Why are people so scared to use psychedelic? 

Edited November 6, 2022 by Pudgey

[Pudgey]

Also, consider this: 

Most of what non-psychedelic users says is a regurgitation. But, they are foolishly parroting themselves.

How many Inliytened1 can you fit on a tractor trailer? 

Some users have also claimed to have experienced God or tripped far greater without psychedelics.

Any person that half-asses psychedelics know that you cannot have 1% of a psychedelic experience with your brain - even if you were monk level of enlightenment. There are serious trip reporters on other forums that don't take God realization or spirituality seriously that is more open minded and understanding about the radicalness of consciousness more than users on an actual spiritual forum. 

It's actually sad. 

It's also boring that the spiritual section gets more attention than the psychedelics section.

It's all rooted into fearing the unknown and not having enough balls. Because you must have some big balls to do it. And if you are scared, you will find a multitude of excuses and why your "brain" is unique and better, when it's not. 

I've come to a realization that most people with less than 500 posts here are more kind and understanding and usually take psychedelics. I'll stick with speaking to those people. 

 

 

Edited November 6, 2022 by Pudgey

[ThePoint]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

When you Awaken, you'll know.

Is it because when you awaken, you realise you’re the only person who can be God-Realized? And that others are a figment of your imagination, so “they” couldn’t possibly be God-Realized?

[Inliytened1]

On 11/5/2022 at 4:48 AM, Gesundheit2 said:

Looks like someone is going to lose their badge soon.

For what?

[Danioover9000]

@Gesundheit2

On 2022-11-05 at 8:08 AM, Gesundheit2 said:

???

   I agree, I am the only god here. Gets lonely sometimes. ???

[Gesundheit2]

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

For what?

God needs angels, and you're becoming a devil 

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Gesundheit2 said:

God needs angels, and you're becoming a devil 

God actually needs the devil more than he needs angels.   To balance him out.

[RebootedMind]

You're procrastinating 

[Leo Gura]

On 11/6/2022 at 3:24 AM, ThePoint said:

Is it because when you awaken, you realise you’re the only person who can be God-Realized? And that others are a figment of your imagination, so “they” couldn’t possibly be God-Realized?

It's far more complicated than that.

Bottom line is, there are hundreds of different kinds of Awakenings, and at various degrees. Having experiences many of them, I can easily tell those who haven't. Your classical Buddhist style of awakening is very, very low.

Don't take it personally. Just keep your mind open to more.

Edited November 7, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Jannes]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's far more complicated than that.

Bottom line is, there are hundreds of different kinds of Awakenings, and at various degrees. Having experiences many of them, I can easily tell those who haven't. Your classical Buddhist style of awakening is very, very low.

Are the lower ones easier to keep permanently?

Edited November 7, 2022 by Jannes

[Leo Gura]

35 minutes ago, Jannes said:

Are the lower ones easier to keep permanently?

Of course

[Jannes]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course

Would that make it reasonable to do buddhist like practices to get and keep mystical states like no-self and to do psychedelics to get glimpses of higher awakenings or do you think it’s realistic to also keep the higher states with enough practice?