Insane abusive relationship phone call

[Hello from Russia]

5 minutes ago, iceprincess said:

@Hello from Russia how has she been abusive?

 

Well we lack evidence, but his behaviour and reactions highly suggest it

The problem is that since she is that famous we only hear 1 side of a situation and we start demonizing the guy based on that

[Loving Radiance]

5 hours ago, Osaid said:

I love him because I know that any hate towards him comes from a lack of understanding

Can you expand on this please?

[Osaid]

47 minutes ago, Loving Radiance said:

Can you expand on this please?

In order to hate someone, you need to lack full context of who you are hating. In order to hate, you need to imagine a myopic version of someone, which doesn't include the full context of their life and what they've been through. If you did perceive them with all their context, you would fully understand them, and thus be unable to hate them. Metaphysically, there is something very interesting happening here, which is that you are literally imagining a version of someone which doesn't and cannot exist, and then hating and rejecting it, because why would reality be so harsh and cruel so as to allow someone like this to exist? The answer is, they don't exist outside of your limited and myopic imagination of them.

You wouldn't get mad at a crocodile for trying to bite your arm off, because that's all it knows how to do. That's how it survives. It's too ignorant to understand morals or even consider empathizing with you. That's just how they are. Just like the crocodile, people who do low-consciousness things literally don't know any better. If they did, they wouldn't be doing those things. It's not accurate to look at what they are doing from a high-consciousness perspective. It's like expecting the crocodile to know morals and not bite your arm off, and then becoming morally outraged at it when it does bite your arm off.

People who commit what is perceived as evil, although it might not look like it, are doing what they believe is best with their level of understanding. If they were at your level of consciousness, they wouldn't do what they're doing, but they aren't. It's ultimately just ignorance. That's just their survival mechanism. That's all they know. They're unable to perceive how what they are doing is incorrect or evil, or else they wouldn't do it. 

[Loving Radiance]

@Osaid Thank you. What I didn't understand though is, in what way do you love him? Or is it rather compassion towards him because of your understanding?

[Osaid]

8 hours ago, Loving Radiance said:

Or is it rather compassion towards him because of your understanding

You can call it compassion or forgiveness. Same as love/understanding. 

Love in essence is just an absence of hate/resistance to reality, and then that absence of hate/resistance might come in different flavors and degrees, like compassion, forgiveness, excitement, joy, etc. All of these involve an embracing and acceptance of reality. Essentially love is an embrace and acceptance of reality, rather than denial or resistance to it. Depending on which aspect of reality you're trying to accept or understand, you might feel different forms of love like compassion, joy, etc.

[flowboy]

People sort themselves by level of emotional maturity.

[Loving Radiance]

@Osaid Thank you ?

[Osaid]

9 hours ago, Loving Radiance said:

Thank you ?

My pleasure

[Ulax]

On 19/10/2022 at 1:02 AM, integral said:

How do people get stuck in these kind of relationships?! This will definitely trigger some people, so avoid if you are sensitive. 

Amouranth is a famous streamer that makes over a million a month and shes stuck in a marriage with a low quality man! 

@integral I'd say its to do with attachment style and trauma bonding.

To my understanding, certain attachment styles, i.e. disorganised, will actually associate abusive behaviours with love and safety.

[ValiantSalvatore]

https://www.integralworld.net/harris22.html

Presumably he was simply in a sexual repressive household and culture/religion/ideology and expresses classic hyper-masculinity... gone astray into the garbadge. This is simply evil.

Edited October 22, 2022 by ValiantSalvatore