Does Nofap increase testosterone levels?

[Danioover9000]

@Breakingthewall

6 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I think that masturbating little (sometimes is necessary imo), keeps testosterone levels higher. I don't think it's because of semen retention but because masturbating a lot lowers testosterone due to the vibe of masturbation. It is not the same as having quality sex. masturbating, usually with porn, lowers you, it is an addictive and self-humiliating practice, it takes away your virility, confidence, self-esteem. All of this affect the testosterone levels. Everything affect. a study measured the testosterone levels of soccer fans after their team was defeated or emerged victorious. they varied significantly.

   I agree, I've heard that the time right after ejaculation to a few hours later, if you went outside and it's cold, you would feel far worse compared to a guy that is in a NoFap state of mind and being, the cold doesn't seem to affect them as much as the other person in a post orgasmic ejaculation sickness state.

[Danioover9000]

@Yarco

6 hours ago, Yarco said:

 

Basically there has only been a handful of small studies, so nothing conclusive.

I'd suggest you just try it for yourself for 1 week and see what anecdotal results you get. Most people at least get a boost in confidence, easier to hold eye contact, etc.

   Thanks for sharing!

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

@sleep

   That's a crazy spike in testosterone in just one week, no wonder most of those doing NoFap felt amazing in 1 week and in 3-4 weeks later.

People like to reduce everything down to one thing. They do it with endogenous DMT and mystical experiences, and they do it with nofap and testosterone. Among other things, fapping releases prolactin. Dopamine has another name: "prolactin-inhibiting hormone", so this can also explain the increase in motivation. It also happens that prolactin decreases the levels of sex hormones, so naturally, eliminating one source of prolactin release will increase testosterone, but again, it's not the only factor.

Edited October 31, 2022 by Carl-Richard

[Pudgey]

NOFAP will never beat taking Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT). Nofap is just a waste of time compared to getting a full blood panel and seeing if your levels are high or not. Even then, the current standard for testosterone levels are so low, doctors may even say you have 'high" test, even when they are low compared to someone 50 - 60 years ago. Testosterone is dropping each and every year - which may not be a bad thing. 

My test was that of an 80-year old. 

I've done NOFAP and it does not come close to injecting yourself with testosterone. Even injecting HCG will give you much better results than semen retention. You will feel as if you were in puberty for 2-3 months on TRT. Once you reach at peak on TRT, you will stabilize but still feel great. With NOFAP, you will feel great for 1-2 weeks in and it will significantly decline thereafter and will shift back to your normal levels. But most men either don't know what TRT is, cannot afford TRT or their doctors tell them they do not need such therapy. 

Therefore, men has created another anti-sex, anti-women, hyper-aggressive cult - even going as far as to insult porn stars and women in general. Very reminiscent of Redpill. Men are now overly associating their semen retention to pseudo-science and circle-jerk non-sense. Most of the men there are still not getting laid, depressed and utterly anxious and pussy-foot. Most of their success with women are they "look at me" because semen retention will give you a "glow" and other bullshit beliefs. However, there are a few success stories and it appears it does have benefit, but most of it is clouted with utter crap and garbage. 

Yet feminism is an issue 

[Carl-Richard]

4 minutes ago, Pudgey said:

NOFAP will never beat taking Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT).

TRT is not health neutral though.

[The0Self]

15 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

TRT is not health neutral though.

It can be health positive, especially if you have low or perhaps even midrange testosterone — there don’t seem to be any natural testosterone increasing interventions that are guaranteed to work.

[Someone here]

Obviously.  Semen contains testosterone 

So when you ejaculate ..you release some testosterone out of your body.  And in nofap the opposite is the case . 

It's so obvious and simple when you think about it without the coomer mentality filter 

 

[something_else]

@Someone here From some rudimentary research, the average man produces 7mg of testosterone a day.

An average ejaculation contains 30ng/100ml of testosterone. An average ejaculation is 5ml. That means there is around 1.5 NANOgrams of testosterone in each ejaculation.

You would need to ejaculate 4.6 million times just to use up all the testosterone you produce in a SINGLE DAY.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2883142/

https://moreplatesmoredates.com/how-many-milligrams-of-testosterone-do-men-naturally-produce/

Edited November 1, 2022 by something_else

[The0Self]

11 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Obviously.  Semen contains testosterone 

So when you ejaculate ..you release some testosterone out of your body.  And in nofap the opposite is the case . 

It's so obvious and simple when you think about it without the coomer mentality filter 

 

Nice try, really. But think again ?‍♂️ 

Not trying to be rude, but perhaps be a bit more careful with your research.

[Someone here]

@something_else@The0Self OK fine . Can you explain the dizziness, sleepiness and tiredness that follows masturbation?  Especially if you do it multiple times a day ?

There is also another negative sides to masturbation other than the lack (however not very significant) of testosterone .  If uncontrolled, it will cause weakning of nerves of pelvic floor causing you a lot of problems in life later.

I understand ..You have high testosterone, you have high libido, you might masturbate more. But if you are doing it out of habit then it's cause of your habit and not testosterone.

Your body loses lot of nutrients in semen. For the next 24 hours of ejaculation, your body goes into reserve state to replenish the loss. So don't do it excessively or out of habit. It's a good thing if done when you feel like doing. But most people (including myself) do it out of habit and chemical addiction ..it has nothing to do with how horny you are . Because you can type up some porn shit and get arousal immediately.  So I'm with it if done out of pure sexual craving. Not out of addiction and habit 

 

[something_else]

37 minutes ago, Someone here said:

It's so obvious and simple when you think about it without the coomer mentality filter 

I’m pointing out you said this again because I think it identifies a heavy amount of bias and unjustified over-confidence in your thinking.

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Your body loses lot of nutrients in semen. For the next 24 hours of ejaculation, your body goes into reserve state to replenish the loss

With that in mind, would you like to provide some links this time?

[Someone here]

44 minutes ago, something_else said:

With that in mind, would you like to provide some links this time

You can Google it

 What the hell do you think semen is composed of ?I Essential nutrients like zinc and iron and protein etc

[Danioover9000]

   So, after reading through this thread, there seems to be a common pattern of thinking for the following, and due note these are my intuitive readings into most posts here so far:

An anecdote vs factual duality.

A reductionistic vs holistic duality.

A Quantitative, scientific/logic bias vs a qualitative, emotional/intuitive and life experience bias.

A joking/humor/making fun of/playfulness vs careful/serious/considering other perspectives/contemplation.

   Most posts and users here are unbalanced, and lobsided for both making fun of NoFap, and being more evidence and scientific based against NoFap vs for NoFap, and less humanistic, openminded learning and serious consideration of the opposing bias and not too open minded enough, not willing enough or either too threatened of and afraid of tackling the issue directly about NoFap anecdotal claims of benefits. I sense those that are quick to dismiss NoFap and quick to ask for evidence and proof are distancing themselves from genuinely finding out if NoFap is or isn't effective. It's like an immediate curtain is drawn down on the self when it's quick to ask for proof and being dismissive. Maybe because the Coomer mentality is too indoctrinated into a person's psyche that it doesn't want to uproot 10+ years of dogma, and face the possibility that you, as a male, actually have a serious addiction to pornography and masturbation? Is there fear in facing the possibility that there was self-rape involved for many years, and to face that is terrifying and shameful? Again, intuitive reading here.

  There's just a lack of dialectical exchange here, of those who are anti porn/anti fap vs pro porn/pro fap vs moderate and well-balanced sexual ways of fulfillment. There're of course extremes and centrist like positions here, and every bias in between, so I'd like for us to be more bias correct than bias cancelling.

[something_else]

@Danioover9000 To be clear I think there are emotional reasons for nofap being good and beneficial for an individual, for some it’s the right choice.

I only chimed in here because the argument of losing energy/nutrients/testosterone through masturbation is silly and quite easily debunked with a little bit of science and biology. 

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Obviously.  Semen contains testosterone 

So when you ejaculate ..you release some testosterone out of your body.  And in nofap the opposite is the case . 

It's so obvious and simple when you think about it without the coomer mentality filter 

How much testosterone though? I don't see why much of it would sit in your semen and not circulate in your blood.

Edited November 1, 2022 by Carl-Richard

[Danioover9000]

@something_else

1 minute ago, something_else said:

@Danioover9000 To be clear I think there are emotional reasons for nofap being good and beneficial for an individual, for some it’s the right choice.

I only chimed in here because the argument of losing energy/nutrients/testosterone through masturbation is silly and quite easily debunked with a little bit of science and biology. 

   Agreed, although I can see how silly it is to make masturbation as the main cause of energy lose, it's not so clear with testosterone and nutrients. Also, that bit of science and biology is likely to have western biases, with secular and materialistic notions of what semen is. Compared to, for example, from the eastern hemisphere, Taoism/Daoism's sexual transmutation practices and theory, semen and masturbation is treated more with care and careful consideration, from how to masturbate properly, and how often as well, as the ancients then, because of primitive and simplistic standards of living, and higher demand for labor and physical fitness for every part of livelihood then, were keenly aware of and are sensitive enough to what effects their bodies. Yes, there's also limits to these biases as well.

   Some male bodies have less active and underperforming sex gonads, other male bodies have an excess of it.

[something_else]

6 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

How much testosterone though? I don't see why much of it would sit in your semen and not circulate in your blood.

See my earlier post. Short answer: An average male would need to ejaculate 4.6 million times to deplete the amount of testosterone he produces in a single day.

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

How much testosterone though? I don't see why much of it would sit in your semen and not circulating in your blood.

I don't see why little of it would sit in your semen. Do you know difficult it is to build semen in the body ? It takes 30 days for a sperm cell to compose and fully mature . Let alone that it depends on your diet and exercise, sleep etc.  

Also in my religion (Hinduism) there is  what's known as virya .its believed that there is only a limited  amount of it in your body . What has been lost via ejaculation will never come back . Even though you never run out of semen and your body produces it daily . Which is why if you've been masturbating for years ..its clear to you that the volume of the semen in your ejaculation is less .

[Carl-Richard]

4 hours ago, Someone here said:

I don't see why little of it would sit in your semen.

I thought you would have some actual stats. I wouldn't expect much testosterone to sit in a teaspoon of semen for the same reason that I don't expect much red blood cells to sit in my left toe. The testosterone in your body circulates in the bloodstream. It doesn't just sit idly by in your semen radiating nofap energy.

Edited November 2, 2022 by Carl-Richard

[Matt23]

Saw a video of Huberman who cited studies where they actually tested; results = yes, it does.

From what I remember, no fapping and no ejaculation during sex for I think 1 week/10 days resulted in an increase in testosterone levels of like 400% or something.  

The bigger picture lesson from the video was "The worst thing for animals is the ability to get that dopamine hit without doing any effort to get there.  Drugs being a great example, or jerking off without having to socialize, date, and have sex with a woman."  I don't remember it all completely, but I also don't think he was advocating "Don't fap at all", cuz... well, he seems like a reasonable guy and absolutely no-fap all the time seems unreasonable as a hard rule.  But ya, you can search it on YT ("Huberman and masturbation", etc.).  

Personally, I just did 7-8 days of it and felt my desire and drive to just create stuff rose.  Whereas before I am usually quite unmotivated and lazy in doing work on projects and stuff.