Andrew Tate changed me in two weeks

[petar8p]

12 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

One question that I was highly curious about is how do you guys practice your Masculinity everyday in your current state that you are in? 

Conquering my fears.

Challenge myself with difficult activities necessary for my growth. 

Undoing any shame for my sexual desires and preferences. Cultural or natural. I don't care. I cannot change them by thought.

 

Creating a high quality male circle that are conscious and forward-thinking.

Edited October 16, 2022 by petar8p

[Tyler Robinson]

23 minutes ago, petar8p said:

all I asked for you was low key, rational discussion and what I recieved is angry voice I can hear behind written words. Acquisition is a part of life, especially male's. Going after your goals is a part of life.

I was calm as a Saint while writing. Maybe just your perception that I'm angry. There was no angry voice other than what you imagined. I can't be calmer than that, it wouldn't make sense since I was already calm.. Learn to read energy perhaps, it will help you. 

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I'm not saying there aren't good male influences. I never even said Tate is a net positive influence, although he probably is because most people are in shit states of consciousness. 

Why would you want someone who you don't exactly see as a good influence? That would be too conflicting to deal with. 

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I just rationally answered your question about why he gained popularity and why he attracts male. Just provided a description to which you rail against this man and society altogether. Where will this lead to? 

Could there be a possibility that he gained popularity through a pyramid scheme of making people frequently post and talk about him. 

I mean if a man talks about himself all day everyday like a commercial advertisement on all social media and randomly pops up in your feed for saying viral and sensational stuff, I'm quite sure anyone will become famous. These days even talentless people like Kim Kardashian become famous. Social media can make anyone famous if you constantly appear in people's feed and if you try hard to grab attention. 

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Where do you want to lead this?

 

What will you change?

I would want to see that a materialistic paradigm is not necessarily an expression of Masculinity. I can see a guy chopping wood in a cave and think of him as masculine as long as he knows what he wants in life and he knows how to be true to himself. Maybe the modern version of masculinity is driven by social media. Any man who is dripping with sweat looks hot, sexy and masculine, doesn't have to be Andrew Tate. 

I couldn't find pictures of men dripping with sweat so this is what I could find after a ton of effort. 

 

Edited October 16, 2022 by Tyler Robinson

[Danioover9000]

@Tyler Robinson

2 hours ago, Tyler Robinson said:

What is it about Tate that attracts so many people? 

 

   His sexiness and baldness, literally and metaphorically not giving a care for how he looks in the market, unapologetically masculine that is arousing, arousing to the flesh and to the suppressed stage red demons in your psyche.

   And his uncanny ability to use dark humor, which is spontaneous almost as if he's a comedian.

[Tyler Robinson]

21 minutes ago, petar8p said:

Conquering my fears.

Challenge myself with difficult activities necessary for my growth. 

Undoing any shame for my sexual desires and preferences. Cultural or natural. I don't care. I cannot change them by thought.

 

Creating a high quality male circle that are conscious and forward-thinking.

Nice. Third point is very important. Lot of men live in sexual shame. I wish a lot of men understood that it cuts down Masculinity very badly. 

[petar8p]

9 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

was calm as a Saint while writing. Maybe just your perception that I'm angry. There was no angry voice other than what you imagined. I can't be calmer than that, it wouldn't make sense since I was already calm.. Learn to read energy perhaps, it will help you. 

ok my bad.

9 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

Why would you want someone who you don't exactly see as a good influence? That would be too conflicting to deal with. 

I'm not saying I want it. I said it happened. And tried to describe why it happened.

 

11 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

Could there be a possibility that he gained popularity through a pyramid scheme of making people frequently post and talk about him. 

It probably is a part of it. But I don't have proof of that. Many people are thankful for him and said he got them to their feet. We must ask ourselves whether there's some truth and value in his speeches too, aside from the questionable beliefs ab women. 

Open discussion.

13 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

I'm quite sure anyone will become famous.

Everybody is trying to take over social media nowadays. It for sure is not an easy task.

 

14 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

These days even talentless people like Kim Kardashian become famous.

This is where I sense anger and/or resentment. 

 

Kim is amazing for social media branding and leading different businesses. This didn't made her popular, but we cannot dispute her real talents nowadays.

16 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

Social media can make anyone famous if you constantly appear in people's feed and if you try hard to grab attention. 

Turns out constantly appearing in people's feed is a hard task. It's understandable you don't know what effort it takes as you're mostly avoiding popular social media. I respect that.

 

19 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

I would want to see that a materialistic paradigm is not necessarily an expression of Masculinity.

You see what you see. We can all agree that it's crazy. But we have to participate in a positive change and be a part of it, expecting it is just not enough.

 

 

[petar8p]

26 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

couldn't find pictures of men dripping with sweat so this is what I could find after a ton of effort. 

 

Gentlemen.

[Tyler Robinson]

9 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Tyler Robinson

   His sexiness and baldness, literally and metaphorically not giving a care for how he looks in the market, unapologetically masculine that is arousing, arousing to the flesh and to the suppressed stage red demons in your psyche.

   And his uncanny ability to use dark humor, which is spontaneous almost as if he's a comedian.

Since you are a man, not sure what sexiness looks like in a man's eyes. 

But in my eyes his face looks cute like a chipmunk, his eyes like buttons. That does not feel sexy to me. His dark humor is very repetitive. It's more of the dry kind. I never saw him laugh hard. 

Does he arouse some kind of sadness in people or sympathy for being hated/banned? I don't know, could be a possibility. 

I do see him talking about women constantly as something that men need to hear since it caters to their inner wounds in a sympathetic manner like a sad poet telling men why they don't deserve to feel bad when rejected. That could be his hidden appeal. 

[Tyler Robinson]

3 minutes ago, petar8p said:

Gentlemen.

They look sexy as hell. Don't they? My heart beats wildly just looking at them. Oh, where are they? 

[petar8p]

2 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

I do see him talking about women constantly as something that men need to hear since it caters to their inner wounds in a sympathetic manner like a sad poet telling men why they don't deserve to feel bad when rejected. That could be his hidden appeal. 

It's not just inner wounds. Mastering women is a huge part on a man's journey. It needs to be talked about more often. They can show us where to go, how to grow stronger, expand and grow a ruthless psyche.

[petar8p]

1 minute ago, Tyler Robinson said:

They look sexy as hell. Don't they? My heart beats wildly just looking at them. Oh, where are they? 

Yeah. They smell like confidence and hard work. Ready to destroy some innocent girls ?

[Tyler Robinson]

Just now, petar8p said:

It's not just inner wounds. Mastering women is a huge part on a man's journey. It needs to be talked about more often. They can show us where to go, how to grow stronger, expand and grow a ruthless psyche.

Hahahahahahahaha maybe talk to women, something most men never think about. How will you learn a woman's heart from a man. That's like me following a woman's fashion channel to see what men want. 

If I want to know what a man wants - simple - hop in the bed with him and he will tell me all he wants from me. 

To know more about women, simply be a lot around them and observe them and see what arouses or tickles them. 

This is a problem of inter-gender communication. 

 

[Tyler Robinson]

Just now, petar8p said:

Yeah. They smell like confidence and hard work. Ready to destroy some innocent girls ?

They smell like coal and wood. Hard work, discipline, respect, compassion, honesty, genuineness, healthy stage Blue, protection and understanding of a woman's heart and then slowly traveling to impress her womb. Feed her, clothe her, save her, keep her and never be angry or hurt her. Exactly how little girls imagine. Tate does take conservative traditionalist approaches sometimes but they are more red oriented, control rather than respect oriented and mixed with some "woman are beneath" kinda inferior questionable takes baked into it. 

 

[petar8p]

8 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

Hahahahahahahaha maybe talk to women, something most men never think about. How will you learn a woman's heart from a man. That's like me following a woman's fashion channel to see what men want. 

I've learned way more about women from listening to other experienced men rather than talking to them. You embody the lessons with interactions, but women are mostly not even aware of their sexuality and are trying to colour it due to slut shaming.

 

10 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

To know more about women, simply be a lot around them and observe them and see what arouses or tickles them. 

True but when you're on lvl 0 that's impossible because they won't be around you.

[StarStruck]

25 minutes ago, Tyler Robinson said:

They smell like coal and wood. Hard work, discipline, respect, compassion, honesty, genuineness, healthy stage Blue, protection and understanding of a woman's heart and then slowly traveling to impress her womb. Feed her, clothe her, save her, keep her and never be angry or hurt her. Exactly how little girls imagine. Tate does take conservative traditionalist approaches sometimes but they are more red oriented, control rather than respect oriented and mixed with some "woman are beneath" kinda inferior questionable takes baked into it. 

 

Back in those days, women were women. They weren’t extreme feminists who want the advantage of being a women, the authority of a man, responsibility of a child… at the same time. 

Good luck finding a dummy who will settle for that. 

[UpperMaster]

4 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

maybe what was once called a chemical imbalance is now seen as "transient" depression?

Yes, but I also don't doubt that traumatic events can cause some depression. Like bruv, if you fighting a fuckin war, or your being exploited regularly it is natural to be depressed. Its just that many people in modern society use depression as an excuse to be complacent.

[Tyler Robinson]

2 minutes ago, petar8p said:

True but when you're on lvl 0 that's impossible because they won't be around you.

If you are afraid of traveling, the only way to get rid of it is to travel a lot and everyday. Then you are no longer afraid of it. Also over time you become an expert traveler. You learn what stuff is more important, how to pack your bag, what languages to learn, how to meet and greet, how to stay safe, what not to eat, how much money to carry, what not to spend money on, how to save money. 

Similarly...... Women are like traveling. 

Make more women friends. Hang out. Don't approach with the idea of making a girlfriend. Simply talk the way you will talk to any random person. 

Woman like a guy who shares(in a friendship sense)  share your stuff with them. Just engage them. One thing I noticed is that you guys are very Impatient. I noticed this a lot with my male friends. It's a really downer and takes away valuable opportunities for growth in men. Don't be so Impatient for pussy. Don't look at every woman as pussy or no pussy. It doesn't give you a chance to bond. What will you do by getting laid anyways if you cannot sustain a bond with her. Would you have anything to talk to her about after sex. Then that would soon turn boring. Approach as many woman as you can without any intent. Some might not like to talk to you, it's okay, don't take it egoic way, let her go, approach next girl,offline or online. Now if some girl friendzones you, it's perfectly fine too, you still get to talk to her. What you guys generally do is of there's a chance to get a girlfriend and when she isn't giving you enough solid signals or opportunities you simply drop everything, lose interest and stop talking to her. But that will not help you grow with women. It's extremely myopic to think of women only in the girlfriend-sex sense. It won't help you genuinely bond with women. Understand that a woman is made of 3 parts - Her mind/intellect, her heart which is most important to her and her pussy/vagina /womb /fertility center. This is the most precious part after her heart and she can't give this precious part easily to any man. 

A woman craves for heart/mind/soul connection. Although it is sometimes possible to win her heart through her vagina but this needs incredible male power and skill.. You have to be extremely adept and seductive to win her directly through vagina. Most men simply cannot do it. It needs a high sex drive in a man and the ability to fuck a woman through eyes only. 

But if you lack that, you can compensate through heart connection. For this have a lot of conversations with women. Connect with them. Bond with them. Learn how to make them feel engaged, entertained and respected. Respect is a huge thing for most women.. When a woman feels protected, respected, she automatically sees the guy as boyfriend material. 

All of this needs you to break out of your ego-laziness-fear zone, just talk to women and see what kind of communication tickles them and learn from it. 

It's all about kinesthetics rather than theory or hearsay. 

 

 

[Tyler Robinson]

22 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

Back in those days, women were women. They weren’t extreme feminists who want the advantage of being a women, the authority of a man, responsibility of a child… at the same time. 

Good luck finding a dummy who will settle for that. 

I don't even know what you are trying to say here. Extreme feminists are kinda rare. Most women aren't there. Where are you finding these women. Most women are okayish. 

I did not even understand what you were trying to say. 

What are extreme feminists asking from you? 

I think you might want to correct the second last line. I think you meant women who don't want authority or something.. 

I'm completely confused, can you re-word the whole thing? 

 

Edited October 16, 2022 by Tyler Robinson

[Tyler Robinson]

1 hour ago, StarStruck said:

 

Good luck finding a dummy who will settle for that. 

I like dummy guys. They are so simple and I value simplicity which is a hard commodity these days. 

Also my father worked in construction and factory work. Maybe that's why I am so attracted to Blue Collar factory guys. 

They are loyal to their wives, just like my dad was loyal to my mom till the end of his life. And they have a lot of compassion. They are not like Eckhart Tolle. But a different kind of stage BLUE compassion. 

It's not like they don't have expectations. 

I don't have a problem with a man wanting authority in a relationship with me. I'm extremely subservient in a relationship and I can give all the authority to a man in a relationship, though I won't act like that around other men, they are not my husbands so zero obligation. 

But I would make a docile wife. I really want the man to take charge and own me. 

However most men these days are very feminine both in appearance and behavior, I'm no longer attracted to such men, they want a dominating career oriented woman and I don't fit that bill. So it's kinda hard to find matured, independent, dominant men

The world stopped producing them long ago because of technology and easy life. 

Death of masculinity. Death of femininity. Where there is no master, there is no follower. 

 

Edited October 16, 2022 by Tyler Robinson

[something_else]

1 hour ago, StarStruck said:

Back in those days, women were women. They weren’t extreme feminists who want the advantage of being a women, the authority of a man, responsibility of a child… at the same time. 

This is basically admitting you don't know that many women in real life, and that most of your ideas about women in the modern world are from the internet

1 hour ago, Tyler Robinson said:

Make more women friends. Hang out. Don't approach with the idea of making a girlfriend. Simply talk the way you will talk to any random person. 

The problem is that often the very guys who this would apply to are so desperate for sex and female love that they struggle to see women as friends in a non-sexual way. Being able to hold a friendship with a woman as a guy often first requires that your own sexual needs are met. It ends up being a bit of a catch 22.

[Danioover9000]

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