Smoking,drinking while being teen

[ShardMare]

Is it bad but can i get a new insight while trying it for the first time? I went to a party with my close friends we are all introverts but can talk decently and we laugh u know. My friends dont smoke, they drank few beers though, little vodka too. It was a highschool party, its weird that its a good school but still most of the students smoked and drank. People did crazy stuff. Ive felt lot more social, there were few drunk teens talking to me. Girls seem so much approachable too at parties.
But why drink and smoke its just a short temporary thing, later it will just make u depressed and more sad, no ?also it causes cancer, its a depressant etc. But its so much more easier to make new friends or acquaintances, they are much friendlier.

I'll definetly go to more parties if my friends go people are crazy there and dancing is good. I still think smoking and alcohol is bad.
I think in life u both should act stupid or goofy without substances and serious.

What are ur experiences. How could u improve urself socially throug partying?

[mr_engineer]

Partying is a waste of time and money in general. I wouldn't look to it for self-improvement if I were in your position. 

Concerts can be fun, though. I'd suggest that you go to concerts of good, famous artists. You can learn a lot by watching a live-performance by a high-quality artist! And if you go with friends, it can be something you can connect over. 

[petar8p]

It is a part of life and modern culture though. 

If you enjoy it and it doesn't take away too much from your life currently then give yourself some freedom, of course. 

 

Just make sure you know when is it appropriate and how you will protect yourself from doing it too often.

 

Don't rely on it for social freedom. You will be in advantage to other guys that will be shitfaced after midnight

[Leo Gura]

Go to parties but never drink or smoke. Have fun sober. That's what I always do.

[Yarco]

Your brain is still developing until somewhere between age 21 and 25. 

Having a beer or two over the course of several hours probably won't do much harm, a little strain on your liver. But if you're binge drinking and getting blackout drunk, you're going to give yourself brain damage and screw up both your short-term and long-term memory for life.

Smoking weed as a teen can cause some pretty alarming stuff, like interfering with neurotransmitters, abnormal brain shape and structure volume. Teens who regularly smoke weed are about 6 IQ points lower on average by the time they reach adulthood. 

I don't know specifics about mushrooms, LSD, DMT, ecstacy, cocaine, etc. or if their affects on teens have really been studied in-depth. But I would say it's not worth the potential risk of messing around with any drugs until adulthood. You've got a good 40 - 60 years of your life to try that stuff out. 

If you screw up your developing brain you're really kneecapping yourself in terms of personal development and self-actualization.

[Roy]

Smoking cigarettes/vape, don't do that. Absolutely terrible for you. If you want to smoke weed or get drunk once in a while go for it. It will loosen you up and you'll have a lot of fun. Alcohol is one of the best social lubricants there is, there is a reason they call it "liquid courage"  I was quite shy when I was younger and alcohol gave me the guts to get a lot more kisses than I would have gotten otherwise.

Some of my best memories as a teen were getting messed up with my friends, exploring the neighborhood at night and trying to hook each other up with girls. Those kinds of social experiences are special and crucial. If you are a hermit during those years it will fuck you in the ass later on, you could turn into one of those incels.

You just have to be wise to know your own limits and pace yourself properly. Do it only every couple weekends or on special occasions, not chronically abusing substances every single friday/saturday night like a lot of people do.

Despite your brain still developing at a young age, it's actually quite resilient. It would take a LOT of repeated use to stunt your growth. I know plenty of people that used pot nearly every single day as teenagers and still turned out successful competent people. Permit yourself to have fun but follow your intuition.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Roy

[Carl-Richard]

41 minutes ago, Roy said:

Despite your brain still developing at a young age, it's actually quite resilient. It would take a LOT of repeated use to stunt your growth.

The last time I ever bought vodka, I legitimately think I caused irreparable damage to my brain  It was bad. I was dressed like Walter White at a Halloween party in 2019, grew out a perfect replica of his goatee over the course of a month, and had bought an insane amount of vodka with the intention to share it with everyone at the party.

Turns out the party had about 60 people cramped up in a house across three floors, and there wasn't enough room to sit down and chat with people. So I ended up walking around with a huge vodka bottle in my hand, from person to person, giving them vodka while I drank the same amount as them. For some reason, I forgot to keep count of how much I had to drink, and I was constantly showered with compliments for my outfit, so my energy levels became pretty unhinged (I was also on some kind of nofap streak lol).

I ended up blacking out while being unable to walk or use my phone, and the moment it dawned on me was when I fell down some stairs and was knocked back into consciousness for a second. In that moment, I was like "oh fuck...". Not long after that, the police arrived because of a noise complaint, and I somehow managed to walk right past them, but I literally couldn't stand upright outside. My friend wanted me home and ordered me a cab, I was shoved into the cab, and then I literally teleported home while puking in the cab (rip 300 dollars).

I couldn't even pay for the cab, named the wrong home address many times, and I emptied out the contents of my wallet all across the neighborhood, and I had to collect it from the neighbors the day after. I couldn't unlock the door to the house, because it had a very similar password to my moms house, and I must've either mixed them up or just dialed it wrong. I had to bang on the door like a gorilla to wake up my roommate so he could open (I got very desperate because it was cold and I was dehydrated as fuck and thought I was going to die). He was stunned lol.

The entire week after that incident, I couldn't think straight, and I felt like absolute garbage. Yay, vodka  

Edited October 9, 2022 by Carl-Richard

[Roy]

@Carl-Richard At least you remember most of your night, so the brain damage couldn't have been THAT bad 

I blacked out during my 18th birthday party, the last thing I remember was standing with my friend smoking a cigar on his deck. I woke up the next day in my friends spare bedroom. Zero recollection of how I got there. Apparently I was functioning and fine the entire night, I never puked or passed out and we walked home together up the hill. I was hoping to hook up with a girl I liked there and get some nookie since it was my birthday, I asked him if we ever did anything and he said nothing happened. Disappointing LOL. Also the fact I missed like 70% of my 18th birthday because my brain stopped having a functioning memory.

The only other experience I've had like that was when I had knee surgery and they knocked me out. One second I am on the table getting put to sleep, the next moment I wake up in the bed feeling like shit. 14 hours passed and it felt like 10 seconds for me, shattered concept of time.

[Hello from Russia]

Try it for a bit just for experience sake

[Thought Art]

@ShardMare Yes, can be healthy to party and socializing in a safe balanced way. Avoid alcohol and smoking.

But, also, find balanced in what you do.

[Carl-Richard]

9 hours ago, Roy said:

@Carl-Richard At least you remember most of your night, so the brain damage couldn't have been THAT bad 

Well, if I hadn't fell down the stairs and gotten a hit of adrenaline, I don't think I would've remembered anything after blacking out. It was one of those curved stairs by a wall with a banister on one side, and my friends said I leaned over the banister at the top of the stairs and frontflipped down to the bottom of the stairs. All I felt was a weak jolt and a sudden coming back into consciousness.

 

10 hours ago, Roy said:

I blacked out during my 18th birthday party, the last thing I remember was standing with my friend smoking a cigar on his deck.

My first time drinking at 17, I blacked out in a similar fashion to what I wrote above, just not as dramatic. You'd think I already learned my lesson ?

[petar8p]

13 hours ago, Roy said:

Some of my best memories as a teen were getting messed up with my friends, exploring the neighborhood at night and trying to hook each other up with girls. Those kinds of social experiences are special and crucial. If you are a hermit during those years it will fuck you in the ass later on, you could turn into one of those incels.

This is fucking right! 

 

I don't think occasional alcohol or weed fucks up your brain development or whatever as much as not going to parties and properly socializing does. 

I would say give yourself some mercy and know what you're doing.

 

As you can see, there are mixed opinions so you choose for yourself bro! That's all that matters..

[hoodrow trillson]

The brain fully develops by age 25.  So drinking and smoking could lead to unwanted mental/physical effects later on if you over do it (pothead, alcoholic for example) 

BUT like said above me, it pales in comparison for the lack of socialization, sex and fun memories you make.  Socialization is paramount to brain development as well and you might end up "weird" when you're older because you missed out on these 'stupid' times where you have fun.

Think of it like when we were kids playing outside--take that away and what happens when that kid turns into a teenager?  What happens to an adult who didn't have fun and fucked around as a young adult?  

If you do decide to party and drink and smoke: DRINK LOTS OF WATER AND TRY TO GET A GOOD NIGHTS REST EVERY TIME.

[Carl-Richard]

17 minutes ago, hoodrow trillson said:

The brain fully develops by age 25.  So drinking and smoking could lead to unwanted mental/physical effects later on if you over do it (pothead, alcoholic for example)

I'm 25 ? Rip neural plasticity.

[Ulax]

On 08/10/2022 at 2:44 PM, ShardMare said:

Is it bad but can i get a new insight while trying it for the first time? I went to a party with my close friends we are all introverts but can talk decently and we laugh u know. My friends dont smoke, they drank few beers though, little vodka too. It was a highschool party, its weird that its a good school but still most of the students smoked and drank. People did crazy stuff. Ive felt lot more social, there were few drunk teens talking to me. Girls seem so much approachable too at parties.
But why drink and smoke its just a short temporary thing, later it will just make u depressed and more sad, no ?also it causes cancer, its a depressant etc. But its so much more easier to make new friends or acquaintances, they are much friendlier.

I'll definetly go to more parties if my friends go people are crazy there and dancing is good. I still think smoking and alcohol is bad.
I think in life u both should act stupid or goofy without substances and serious.

What are ur experiences. How could u improve urself socially throug partying?

Yo dude!

These parties sound fun. Nice to let loose hey? I'd personally recommend staying off the weed but that's just me. (I stopped having the devil's lettuce after a weird experience where I experienced a paranoid delusion that everyone in the world wanted to fuck me. Was an interesting experience xD).

I think drinking can bring some fun memories and wild experiences, and helps bond with people. I'd just make sure not to over do it. That said I had my fair few experiences of getting blackout drunk growing up ;). 

Back in my teens I used to go to quite a few parties/ gatherings sober, but importantly I'd leave my phone at home or bring a dumbphone with me. I had social anxiety and wanted to overcome it. That way I found when I was anxious about the prospect of introducing myself to people, I couldn't just avoid saying hi by pretending to be on my phone. Worked a charm! Ended up getting pretty effective at getting myself able to go and meet new people when I was out at events. Am in my early/ mid 20s now, and it deffo helped me in college, rest of high school, and elsewhere, i.e. getting started in pickup.

Also, I reckon you could start practising building social networks by adding folks you like on your socials, and then inviting them to other events. Could even throw some events yourself if you're up to it!

[Ulax]

22 hours ago, Roy said:

@Carl-Richard At least you remember most of your night, so the brain damage couldn't have been THAT bad 

I blacked out during my 18th birthday party, the last thing I remember was standing with my friend smoking a cigar on his deck. I woke up the next day in my friends spare bedroom. Zero recollection of how I got there. Apparently I was functioning and fine the entire night, I never puked or passed out and we walked home together up the hill. I was hoping to hook up with a girl I liked there and get some nookie since it was my birthday, I asked him if we ever did anything and he said nothing happened. Disappointing LOL. Also the fact I missed like 70% of my 18th birthday because my brain stopped having a functioning memory.

@Roy Haha dude!

Almost same exact thing happened at my 18th!

Edited October 10, 2022 by Ulax