at which stage of spiral dynamics is andrew tate ?

[Majed]

he seems very blue to me, but i am not sure if he is red/blue or blue/orange. he did sex trafficking apparently; this is very red i guess. 

[Majed]

@Tyler Robinson what do you mean

[Majed]

@Tyler Robinson you don't like him?

[Lila9]

Not turquoise for sure

According to the 9 Stages of the Ego Development model he's at stage 2 or 3 imo.

[Ulax]

I don't believe the human trafficking allegation are true.

I'd say he has a lot of orange and red, and a noticeable amount of blue.

[Gidiot]

Beige

[Danioover9000]

@Majed

4 hours ago, Majed said:

he seems very blue to me, but i am not sure if he is red/blue or blue/orange. he did sex trafficking apparently; this is very red i guess. 

   He seems to me that he has values mostly at stage orange, the next chunk at stage red/blue. His cognitive and moral development, to me, is that he is able to speak and reason well enough to be persuasive and convincing, and due to his speed of speech I assume his cognition is more streamlined and, in a series, rather than episodic or either in words or images or a bit of both. His morality, is similar to that of red pillars people who parrot around masculinity too much, is that he's way more egocentric, his circle of concern mainly is towards him, and to some extent his family, but that's it. I think his psychology and personality types are more towards extroverted and orderly, close minded and disagreeable. I think he has led an interesting life so far, how many Andrew Tates are out there, that have had a father that plays chess as a champion? Or has won some belts in kickboxing and maybe boxing? How many even own Maserati?

   His other lines of development, which are:

1. Finance 9 out of 10.

2. Career, 5 out of 10.

3. family and social circles, 7 out of 10.

4. sex life, 9 out of 10.

5. Health and fitness, 8 out of 10.

6. Leisure, a 2 out of 10.

7. Spirituality, a 0 out of 10.

[Danioover9000]

   Of course, his masculine and feminine polarity are a bit out of whack, he is clearly emphasizing too much on the masculine.

[The0Self]

Red-to-green, with orange and blue dominating. Tristan Tate is a bit higher, perhaps even slightly creeping into the yellow (almost entirely due to sheer prosperity), if JBP is also in the yellow (which I kind of doubt now tbh).

Edited October 7, 2022 by The0Self

[something_else]

He’s literally just straight orange? Is it really that hard? He’s like epitome of orange

He’s like if you took a literal orange, blended it up with orange paint, then threw it into molten lava levels of orange 

[Tyler Robinson]

For some reason I see this guy as more stage Red and especially very toxic Red than orange. 

His stuff does not seem orange to me. He does not talk about ambition. More like get what you want policy. And for that he can go to extreme measures.. So that's so red. 

He is a bit blue since he focuses a lot on discipline. And a dogmatic way of thinking. 

 

[Carl-Richard]

On 7.10.2022 at 4:47 PM, Majed said:

he did sex trafficking apparently; this is very red i guess. 

No he didn't lol.

His Red is dominant, but he also has strong Orange and Blue: male-only polygamy, "escape the Matrix", "build an empire of strong men".

Edited October 8, 2022 by Carl-Richard

[Danioover9000]

@Carl-Richard

23 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

No he didn't lol.

His Red is dominant, but he also has strong Orange and Blue: male-only polygamy, "escape the Matrix", "build an empire of strong men".

   And good marketing sense, which further makes it harder to accurately peg him down.

[Hatfort]

Blue-orange. Definitely not green or yellow.