Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Twinstar said: @Leo GuraWhat makes you think that no one is mature enough to handle it? Seems like a biased generalization. You guys can barely handle a little mouse action Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 @Leo Gura you could try to make a visual representation of this alien hyper intelligence with A.I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, fictional_character said: @Leo Gura you could try to make a visual representation of this alien hyper intelligence with A.I No, it's not a visual thing. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: No, it's not a visual thing. I understand haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: No, it's not a visual thing. Have you ever found practical uses for your infinite intelligence? Tesla had also access to this intelligence and he discovered electricity. Afterward the light bulb was invented. Edited October 9, 2022 by StarStruck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 You are not the most awakened being there is. It comes off pretty painful to see you insist on it, from posts to posts, when what is happening is a clear case of an ego co-opting awakening/ and intellectual insights as a way to strengthen itself. It's pretty basic, and easy to spot from an outside perspective. I suppose since it's not necessarily the nicest thing to point at, and that when someone slack off from your gravity pool there is no more strong feeling one need to 'do something about it', it's rare that it's being told to you. But lately, your situation comes off as very bad, and I would highly recommend you to seek some help, before you keep sinking more and more into delusion. Now I already know, I'm going to be threatened, belittled, told I am not awake enough, not smart enough and all the likes. But that reaction is exactly what makes me know you are not the real deal. Love, gentleness, kindness, and respect is quite foreign to you (as of 2022, you used to be a cool guy), and your forum looks like a 'spiritual' BDSM studio where you followers enjoy you pouring melted wax on their low-self esteem wounds. If you want to connect with the unconditional love that is so longed for and talked about, you might want to start to incarnate it. You are totally bereft of it. Hence your obsession with the idea of it, and your constant need for superiority. It's the infamous zero sum game mentality, all over again. A need for superiority on the Buddha, Tolle, Ken Wilber and obviously, your followers. Seeing anyone doing better than you is a threat to your sense of self. What a Guru! By the way, I know you've been itching to ban my account for a while. If you feel like burning the witch, feel free to do so. I suppose stating the obvious has this cost. Be cautious when a naked person offers you a t-shirt. - African proverb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said: By the way, I know you've been itching to ban my account for a while. You sure would like that to prove your case. Unfortunately for you I'm not so insecure about whether you believe me or not. I don't ban people just because they disagree with me. Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Leo Gura said: You sure would like that to prove your case. Unfortunately for you I'm not so insecure about whether you believe me or not. It was obviously a witchy trick. A reversal psychology game theory spell. Be cautious when a naked person offers you a t-shirt. - African proverb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) @Etherial Cat Keep playing your games. Meanwhile don't kid yourself. You've got a lot of awakening left to do and your fave gurus will not help you achieve it because they themselves don't have it. All I'm here to tell you is that your spirituality is a sophisticated game. But none of that is fooling me. Nothing personal. Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: @Etherial Cat Keep playing your games. Meanwhile don't kid yourself. You've got a lot of awakening left to do and your fave gurus will not help you achieve it. This is exactly what I am talking about. It's not empowering, it's not loving, it's not kind. It's a 'I am better than you' disguised as help, preying on the fear someone cannot get enlightened and thus get rid of its suffering alone, without your guidance. I'm over that. You helped me a lot, but this type of mentor/student dynamic is not how one gets awaken. It's bad for me, and bad for you. Be cautious when a naked person offers you a t-shirt. - African proverb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said: This is exactly what I am talking about. It's not empowering, it's not loving, it's not kind. It's a 'I am better than you' disguised as help, preying on the fear someone cannot get enlightened and thus get rid of its suffering alone, without your guidance. I'm over that. You helped me a lot, but this type of mentor/student dynamic is not how one gets awaken. It's bad for me, and bad for you. As I told you, you're playing games. And none of this is personal. If you're gonna be on this forum, I will tell you when you are not Awake. And if you find that unloving and disrespectful, you're not gonna like being here. It's not about being better than you. Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, KH2 said: And what if he really IS the most awakened being in the universe? It's not like you can prove otherwise. My inner authority tells me it's not. I've proven it to myself. I'm not interested in convincing anyone I am right about it. Everyone needs to do its own work. Be cautious when a naked person offers you a t-shirt. - African proverb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Meta-Man said: Pyschonautism ≠ Awakeism Lost in content. Lost like a mouse in maze. Don't even get started with me. You don't know what Awakening is yet. Notice something: all you guys here who think you're advanced and humble, you're actually extremely arrogant. More arrogant than me. You just hide it under a veneer of spiritual humility. Don't think for one minute that that's fooling me. That will fool your Buddhist gurus, because they play the same game, but it won't fool me. Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: As I told you, you're playing games. And none of this is personal. If you're gonna be on this forum, I will tell you when you are not Awake. And if you find that unloving and disrespectful, you're not gonna like being here. It's not about being better than you. Well, that's the thing. I can't really hang on your forum anymore because it comes off as unintelligent in many way to oppose your POV, as its leader. I can't be myself in this environment, without feeling it's painful on both side. I suppose it's just an incompatibility case. But you theoretically want to make sure there is enough different POV so you don't end up in an echo chamber. ?♀️ Be cautious when a naked person offers you a t-shirt. - African proverb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: As I told you, you're playing games. And none of this is personal. If you're gonna be on this forum, I will tell you when you are not Awake. And if you find that unloving and disrespectful, you're not gonna like being here. It's not about being better than you. @Leo Gura it is your responsibility as a leader to be aware, conscious of the impact your modelling and language has on others. And then reflect on whether that's the impact you are committed to have on this planet. If so, that's fine. If not, your intention and your impact as miss aligned. As a leader who is more conscious, while you can, cause is a choice/ at a certain point in your development you might want to stop excusing yourself as like " well If you don't like how I speak to you l, then go" type of answers. You are operating from a context of : I'll say whatever I want, and how others take that, makes them feel or receive it, it's on them and only they responsability" While there is truth to that. You are also releasing your responsibility and therefore the power you have to make a greater impact and lead others. You only lead through what you model through your being not necessarily your words. So ask yourself whether that's the impact you are committed to having? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 What most of you are not getting here is that Leo has awakened to Troll Consciousness Apparently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Meta-Man said: Pyschonautism ≠ Awakeism Lost in content. Lost like a mouse in maze. I went through an Ayahuasca ceremony a few weeks ago. While my mind and body experienced different states/perspectives, my awareness didn't budge. Consciousness doesn't increase or decrease on psychedelics. Consciousness is already perfect as it is. Psychedelics act on the mind/body level. They make them interact differently with awareness, be more transparent, hence the insights. Anyway, that's my take on it. I think that is also what Ralston says. Be cautious when a naked person offers you a t-shirt. - African proverb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, KH2 said: And what if he really IS the most awakened being in the universe? It's not like you can prove otherwise. Anyone who is energy sensitive can look at Leo and see what's really going on inside him. And compare his energy to that of other spiritual teachers. You can say that you're the most awake human being but your energy will tel the truth. It is clear to me that Leo is still suffering and seeking. He hasn't even had a basic legit awakening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 wonderful. when it seemed that you had reached the end and from now on there was only repetition, it turns out that it is a new beginning. I am very happy to see your trajectory, it is very inspiring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Etherial Cat said: Well, that's the thing. I can't really hang on your forum anymore because it comes off as unintelligent in many way to oppose your POV, as its leader. I can't be myself in this environment, without feeling it's painful on both side. I suppose it's just an incompatibility case. But you theoretically want to make sure there is enough different POV so you don't end up in an echo chamber. ?♀️ Yes, that's the challenge of this situation. On the one hand I must allow for diversity of opinion and perspective. I have no interest in being a tyrant here. On the other hand I cannot allow people to run wild with ideas about Awakening/Consciousness/God which I know are untrue. Which makes for a challenging balancing act. In the end you have to decide whether you trust my leadership or not. Ultimately this issue is not avoidable. You can't really follow a set of teachings if you fundamentally disagree with the creator of those teachings or you think he's leading you in the wrong direction. You can't sign up for a meditation retreat and then also hold that the guy who organized the retreat is deluded and wrong about the most fundamental of things. If you think that I am fundamentally wrong about Awakening/Consciousness/God, then don't waste your time playing games with me. Go be with a teacher or community where your views align. Don't waste time. Do whatever you feel you need to wake up and get closer to Truth/God. There is no use hanging around here struggling against me. I am here because I cannot leave this place without shutting the whole thing down. You, on the other hand, can find any number of spiritual communities which will fit your values and worldview if this one does not. There is no point in following a spiritual leader who you do not respect. If you truly believe that I'm bullshitting you, then you shouldn't follow me and you shouldn't be here. The reason I kick some people off this forum is when I see that they clearly do not respect my leadership but stick around here just to play games and argue. This is a waste of time and energy so eventually I will kick such people out. Not only for my sake, but for theirs. Do not waste your time in unproductive argumentation. The goal is not to argue, it's to increase consciousness. I teach very radical things which are not for most people. My teachings do not align with many conventional, happy-go-lucky spiritual schools which seek to be noncontroversial, nonconfrontational, and "all-accepting". I am not spiritually "all-accepting". There are worse and better ways to do spirituality. Traditionally the way this worked is, you find a guru who you deeply respect, and then you follow his leadership. And if you think you know better than him, then he cannot be your guru. Now, I don't really consider myself anyone's guru. I don't want to be your guru. I want you to think for yourself. But some baseline of respect for my authority is necessary because what I do is lead people to consciousness. And I think I do a decent job of it. If you disagree, then don't interact with me. It's that simple. I am not going to waste time on people who do not want my leadership when there are thousands of other people who want it. We are not on the same level. I am in a leadership position. You are free to reject my leadership. But then we have no more business talking because I am certainly not going to be following you. Nothing personal. I wouldn't follow the Buddha himself. I teach things that nobody else teaches. It's up to you to decide whether you want such teachings. 1 hour ago, Greatnestwithin said: @Leo Gura it is your responsibility as a leader to be aware, conscious of the impact your modelling and language has on others. And then reflect on whether that's the impact you are committed to have on this planet. If so, that's fine. If not, your intention and your impact as miss aligned. As a leader who is more conscious, while you can, cause is a choice/ at a certain point in your development you might want to stop excusing yourself as like " well If you don't like how I speak to you l, then go" type of answers. You are operating from a context of : I'll say whatever I want, and how others take that, makes them feel or receive it, it's on them and only they responsability" I do take responsibility for what I say. In this case the issue isn't one of my word choice, it's more fundamental. Even if I chose my words to be the sweetest ones possible, the core issue would remain: people here who think they understand Awakening/Consciousness/God, but actually don't. And there's no nice way to tell them that. They will fight it tooth and nail because that's how the illusion is maintained. But at the same time I cannot sit by and allow such misinformation to flourish on a platform that I am responsible for. This does not mean that I cannot be sweeter or kinder. I can make improvements there. But my core positions on the nature of Truth/God/Love/Awakening/Consciousness -- this is not negotiable for me, I am very certain about these things after all the work I've done, and I have a low tolerance for spiritual bullshit. It's very clear to me when spiritual people do not know what they're talking about but have convinced themselves that they do. Of course you can always claim that I am wrong/deluded. In which case we just have a fundamental disagreement which will never be resolved through talk. In which case, go do it your way. But don't waste time arguing with me, trying to convince me of something. No human is every going to change my positions on Consciousness. Because all of my positions on Consciousness from this point on can only be grounded in my personal experience, not anything human. No amount of talking with any human will ever reveal to you the true nature of Consciousness. Edited October 9, 2022 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites