Is porn bad for society?

[How to be wise]

 

[Someone here]

It can be ..potentially.  but not actually. Up until now at least .

Currently porn is not “bad for society”. In fact, there has been strong correlation with sexual assault rates dropping in countries where porn becomes more available. While there is no strong evidence that porn actually causes the sexual assault rates to drop, the correlation is there.

The worst thing you can say about porn is that young people, lacking a comprehensive and fact based sex education, turn to porn and get the wrong ideas. The problem is not porn but the lack of sex education. Incidentally, the same people who are against porn tend to be against comprehensive sex education as well. Odd that. It’s almost like they are against things just because they are involved with sex, not because they actually care about fixing real problems

[Alexop]

It can be bad for people who have low education and low awareness, like many other things in scoiety. The same you can say about sugar, tiktok, videogames...

 

[Tefikos]

I agree, porn becomes the problem when people get their sex education from it. Comprehensive sex education should be taught in schools. 

Edited October 3, 2022 by Tefikos
Double wording

[Ulax]

If governments developed social programmes that met the need/ needs that porn meets then porn would not be popular.

I'd say porn can be and likely is for many an unhealthy way that people meet their needs. However, there much more unhealthy and actually dangerous ways that these needs could be met in the absence of porn.

I also intuitively agree @Someone here about the positives of porn surrounding lower sexual assault cases. Its intuitive as I don't know of the scientific consensus on the issue, or if said consensus reliable or persuasive.

[Danioover9000]

   Pornography being good or bad to a society depends on the stage of development, cognitive and moral development, personality typing of the population also psychography, states of being and consciousness of the general population, life experiences per person and other lines of development that exist for the individual to the collective.

[LordFall]

@How to be wise What do you think about it? Posting a video without your own thoughts is profiting off of others' opinions!

Porn is a tool, depends how you use it.

[Danioover9000]

   It also depends on your sexuality, sexual orientation, gender role and any fetishes/kinks you prefer/have a bias for and how your body and mind is affected by orgasm. In one perspective it seems that pornography is damaging and degrading society, but in another perspective, pornography offers a safer way to view and explore sexuality, with the majority of porn videos, online/tv, porn magazines, hentai/doujinshi, erotic literature/poems, erotica statues and other mediums that express sexuality in varying degrees of implicit/explicit, it is much better than going for a complete ban on pornography. You are basically repeating history when America banned alcohol, which shifted the demand and supply way more to the black markets.

   

[Raze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oFVOJf0TzY

[DocWatts]

Is any multi-faceted phenomena purely good or bad for society?

SD-Green and female friendly pornography does exist, offering a more ethical and potentially healthier way to explore sexuality than porn that's made at SD-Orange.

[Danioover9000]

   Ultimately it comes down to this: being responsible for your sex. That's it. If you are responsible for yourself needs, it would have a more positive rippling effect to the upper scales that have multiple groups.

[Gidiot]

Porn is just a form of sexual expression theirs more conscious and less conscious porn and so you can’t generalize it as all good or bad, but Generally I’d say most porn is very uninteresting and boring just from experience.

You really have to look for the gems but it can be consumed at a high level. I’m not ready to say real sex is better for everyone because I don’t think that, I think for some people they need porn.

 

Or at least masturbation, there’s been too much demonization, but at the same time there’s nothing wrong with virginity and abstinence either, if you’re not hurting anyone I don’t see a problem with it

Edited October 4, 2022 by Gidiot

[sholomar]

I would legalize prostitution and encourage the setup of regulated places to rent women for sex that are tested to be clean. It would really help the problem of thirsty incels in society or socially awkward people who can't get their biological cravings met. I think this is going to be a growing problem going forward, I really do, as men are becoming more feminine in their demeanor and women's biology still craves the dominant male. More and more men are being simply left out of the loop, and it's going to cause problems. It's just a matter of time.

I believe it contributes to the labor shortages we are seeing. If a man doesn't have a family to work for, what's the point of working? For many of them there is no point. Of course the piss pour wages relative to the price of housing would be the other major component.

Porn can lead to unrealistic expectations in relationships, but so do Hollywood movies.  Content in general I believe is poisoning people's minds. We are a generation of dopamine addicts, always looking for our next fix. How many hours does the average person spend on a screen these days? I've found that to be toxic. I so enjoy my time I sit in present moment meditating, it makes me want to buy a cabin in Northern Wisconsin and live the simple life sitting in the back yard, or along the beach, just being... this hamster wheel chase for more and more "things" or even more and more "experiences" ... eventually it just becomes taxing...

Edited October 5, 2022 by sholomar

[Danioover9000]

@sholomar

7 hours ago, sholomar said:

I would legalize prostitution and encourage the setup of regulated places to rent women for sex that are tested to be clean. It would really help the problem of thirsty incels in society or socially awkward people who can't get their biological cravings met. I think this is going to be a growing problem going forward, I really do, as men are becoming more feminine in their demeanor and women's biology still craves the dominant male. More and more men are being simply left out of the loop, and it's going to cause problems. It's just a matter of time.

I believe it contributes to the labor shortages we are seeing. If a man doesn't have a family to work for, what's the point of working? For many of them there is no point. Of course the piss pour wages relative to the price of housing would be the other major component.

Porn can lead to unrealistic expectations in relationships, but so do Hollywood movies.  Content in general I believe is poisoning people's minds. We are a generation of dopamine addicts, always looking for our next fix. How many hours does the average person spend on a screen these days? I've found that to be toxic. I so enjoy my time I sit in present moment meditating, it makes me want to buy a cabin in Northern Wisconsin and live the simple life sitting in the back yard, or along the beach, just being... this hamster wheel chase for more and more "things" or even more and more "experiences" ... eventually it just becomes taxing...

   Hasn't Sweden or Denmark already had this practice of hiring sex workers?

   I know it's trendy to complain how we are a 'dopamine' addicted generation due to stage orange predatory marketing and capitalism, but that's nearly saying nothing, when we have had approximately 30,000 plus years of human history, and thousands of generations have passed, each generation dealing with their problems of addiction as groups, it's not a new problem we're dealing with, other than the technological advancement of the internet and digital forms of advertising acts like a force multiplier for this particular problem. We can't avoid these problems by just implementing stage green methodologies onto stage orange problems,

[Axiomatic]

Porn is garbage and terrible for you. 

The only people who argue otherwise are the ones who profit from it. That and porn addicts. 

[Scholar]

The biggest problem with the entire entertainment industriy that it is reducing the productive capacity of mankind. A responsible and developed species will not waste hours and hours of every week on activities which are enjoyable but lead to nothing useful in the world. The reason for that is simple: You can educate people to find joy in activities which are socially and environmentally useful.

We currently live in the wild west, our usage of all forms of media and entertainment is utterly irresponsible and primitive. This will be obvious to people in the future. Our age is akin to people being allowed to murder each other as they see fit, that's the insanity that is going on today. But of course, we are completely blind to it because we cannot see what a truly developed human being even looks like.

 

If half the time spend on entertainment in the west was spend on improving society and the world, we would have heaven on earth already.

Edited October 6, 2022 by Scholar

[Hatfort]

At this point in history and technology, we had to go through it. But it's not great, let's leave it at that.

[Kross]

No it's not. Compulsiveness on the other hand, is harmful - that is what we have to combat as individuals.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Kross

[Danioover9000]

@Kross

33 minutes ago, Kross said:

No it's not. Compulsiveness on the other hand, is harmful - that is what we have to combat as individuals.

   That's in fact the deeper issue, is the compulsiveness and obsession that develops if mindlessly consuming any one medium or interest, which is not limited to porn.

[Danioover9000]

@peebz

1 hour ago, peebz said:

What porn has become is insane and degenerate.  Pornos where people bang step sisters, mothers, drunk girls, rape fantasies, and whatever deranged topics there are these days, really screws with peoples minds.  Porn addiction is serious topic and we gotta realize that people that watch too much porn need to constantly step it up to more and more novel pornos which really means what it takes to get off becomes more and more deranged.  It also affects the way we look at women,  It purely objectifies them.  We would all be better off without it.

   Two big points that are far more problematic than your take on pornography itself, in any society:

When you, or a group of people mindlessly consume content, through time, develops into compulsiveness to consume more content.

When the mind starts to generalize and distort what's actually there, to limit the diversity eliminate the nuances of any one field into being an overall bad net negative to society, not just pornography. Also, like any other human field, pornography does not just have some bad or weird fetishes and kinks that it serves only, it also has other tags that either lean more to intimacy type, or domination type. Humans are, still, for the most part, animalistic on average, and some want to be submissive, some want to dominate. Pornography is also not limited to video formats, they include audio forms, magazine forms, comics, erotica, poetry, artworks in galleries and exhibits.

I don't think that we are better off without pornography, and if you are well versed in world history, and human history, you'd laugh at yourself for being so disrespectful and short-sighted with yourself for what you just wrote. You'd be very glad that we have pornography in today's format, at least the crazy shit most people view is mostly acting in video, audio, or pictures or words written as poetry. 300 years ago, there were no videos, no sex ads in internet, no porn mags, no porn comics, no porn erotica, maybe poems, definitely not sex dolls or toys, maybe murals from ancient sites depicting pornographic postures, but largely a very simplistic world back then. That doesn't mean there were not perverts either, in fact the world was so simple, boring and much harsher, it forced most of those horny enough to act on those desires, on mostly real bodies of men and women, and children.