Suggest to me books about the origin of existence

[Someone here]

Suggest to me books that talk about the origin of our universe,and how existence came into being.  It can be from scientific perspective or spiritual perspective. It doesn't matter .as long as the main topic of the book is the origin of reality. An example would be "a brief history of time " by Stephen Hawking .and "a universe from nothing "a  Lawrence Krauss.

Thanks. 

[Nilsi]

"Sex, Ecology, Spirituality," "The Selfish Gene" and "The Bible" are pretty good

[Vibroverse]

You may wanna study Hegel. 

[Brandon Nankivell]

God's Mountain by John Scott and for early civilization and intricate details about the crystalline structure of the universe.

Out of Australia by Steven & Evan Strong for a controvertial but possibly ground-breaking take on the origin of humans.

The Trap by David Icke for origin of existence in general.

Some occasional great one-liners from Yogananda in his talks, see Man's Eternal Quest (Collected Essay series), Bhagavad Gita Commentary.

Leo's videos.

[Nilsi]

8 hours ago, Brandon Nankivell said:

The Trap by David Icke for origin of existence in general.

You might wanna pass on that one

[Someone here]

17 hours ago, Nilsi said:

"The Bible"

 

[Someone here]

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16 hours ago, Brandon Nankivell said:

God's Mountain by John Scott and for early civilization and intricate details about the crystalline structure of the universe.

Out of Australia by Steven & Evan Strong for a controvertial but possibly ground-breaking take on the origin of humans.

The Trap by David Icke for origin of existence in general.

Some occasional great one-liners from Yogananda in his talks, see Man's Eternal Quest (Collected Essay series), Bhagavad Gita Commentary.

Leo's videos.

Thank you .Will check them out .

[Someone here]

17 hours ago, Vibroverse said:

You may wanna study Hegel. 

I find him difficult to read and speaks a lot of philosophical word salad. 

What's his thoughts about how all of existence came about ?

[Vibroverse]

19 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I find him difficult to read and speaks a lot of philosophical word salad. 

What's his thoughts about how all of existence came about ?

He actually is not a word salad, his teaching is pretty deep, and yeah, you're right, you don't need to, directly, try to read, like, the Phenomenology of Spirit. I'd recommend that you can first start with some readers about him created by other philosophers, so that you can, more and more, become familiar with him. 

His words look like a word salad, but when you begin to make sense of it, it turns into a very delicious salad, in the process. Hmm, if we asked him about how existence came about, he, probably, would take a glance at you, at first, and ask you "why do you think existence needs to come into being, why do you think existence cannot be existing always, because if existence did not exist, then it itself would, also, be a paradox in itself, for nothing itself would also be something that is". 

 

[Someone here]

19 minutes ago, Vibroverse said:

Hmm, if we asked him about how existence came about, he, probably, would take a glance at you, at first, and ask you "why do you think existence needs to come into being, why do you think existence cannot be existing always, because if existence did not exist, then it itself would, also, be a paradox in itself, for nothing itself would also be something that is". 

 

What I'm really asking is really Did reality itself begin and will it end? Even if you make the implausible and irrational claim nothing existed before the universe, well then wouldn't that have been the "reality" at the time?

But how does that make sense, if there was no mind here to conceive of or contemplate "reality"?

No matter how you cook it, when you suggest reality had a "beginning," you spiral deeper and deeper into absurdity. It's impossible to explain how reality could begin..without something having had to begin it. That something, then, would itself have to have been "real" to begin reality.

You're therefore stuck in an infinite regression. You're going to have to make something eternal.

[Vibroverse]

6 minutes ago, Someone here said:

What I'm really asking is really Did reality itself begin and will it end? Even if you make the implausible and irrational claim nothing existed before the universe, well then wouldn't that have been the "reality" at the time?

But how does that make sense, if there was no mind here to conceive of or contemplate "reality"?

No matter how you cook it, when you suggest reality had a "beginning," you spiral deeper and deeper into absurdity. It's impossible to explain how reality could begin..without something having had to begin it. That something, then, would itself have to have been "real" to begin reality.

You're therefore stuck in an infinite regression. You're going to have to make something eternal.

Exactly, and that which is eternal is being. 

 

[Vibroverse]

Because even when you're trying to find the beginning, you're here and now, referring to "something" here and now as the beginning, but you are the one that is here and now that is referring to that "something". 

 

[BipolarGrowth]

The origin of existence is happening right here and now for no one. 
 

 

[Someone here]

5 minutes ago, Vibroverse said:

Because even when you're trying to find the beginning, you're here and now, referring to "something" here and now as the beginning, but you are the one that is here and now that is referring to that "something". 

 

True .

eternity has no beginning and no end .but why do people refuse to see
that time is a circle?Only in that way can eternity be understood.

This moment, now, is but a point on our finite timeline.We are linear beings with respect to time. Our timelines are finite.Birth- Now- Death.

Yet our finite timelines exist within eternity.
As a fraction of a degree of arc
On the circular timeline of infinity.

All moments within eternity exist on this circular timeline.Each moment occurs, then eventually,
following each moment after,
forward on that circle,
returns
and occurs again.Eternity is an infinite repetition of the same moments.

Any moment in eternity is both the beginning and the end of time.

[Someone here]

15 minutes ago, BipolarGrowth said:

The origin of existence is happening right here and now for no one. 
 

 

The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao .

[Kensho]

Helena Blavatsky. The secret doctrine

[Vibroverse]

25 minutes ago, Someone here said:

True .

eternity has no beginning and no end .but why do people refuse to see
that time is a circle?Only in that way can eternity be understood.

This moment, now, is but a point on our finite timeline.We are linear beings with respect to time. Our timelines are finite.Birth- Now- Death.

Yet our finite timelines exist within eternity.
As a fraction of a degree of arc
On the circular timeline of infinity.

All moments within eternity exist on this circular timeline.Each moment occurs, then eventually,
following each moment after,
forward on that circle,
returns
and occurs again.Eternity is an infinite repetition of the same moments.

Any moment in eternity is both the beginning and the end of time.

True, but if you look at it, all those images in your mind about what time is also are appearing in the now, so time is not even a circle, but it is a point, and it is not even a point, it just is what now is. 

 

 

Edited October 1, 2022 by Vibroverse

[Someone here]

20 minutes ago, Vibroverse said:

True, but if you look at it, all those images in your mind about what time is also are appearing in the now, so time is not even a circle, but it is a point, and it is not even a point, it just is what now is. 

 

 

I don’t have any proof but my intuition tells me that time is circular. Linear time is analogous to when people used to think the Earth was flat, then people discovered if you go far enough west you end up in the East. Similarly I believe if you go far enough into the future you’ll end up in the past. This means that our past is also our future, which explains how the ancients built the pyramids and so on. This also explains why most cultures revere their ancestors, to such a degree that until recently the search for knowledge was usually conducted by reviewing ancient scrolls. So at some point in the future the human race will build the pyramids and then some event will occur which will wipe out our cultural knowledge and the cycle will repeat again. this also explains the Bible Code, how the ancient knew of events to come and used computers to encode these events into the Bible. However even though there is a general cycle I dont believe history repeats exactly the same way as there is an element of random variability. So each time the historic cycle repeats it is a bit altered creating a variation on a general theme. If you tell most people time is circular as the world is round they will think you lost it. But isnt it a more beneficial paradigm than seeing time as linear?

[Someone here]

51 minutes ago, Kensho said:

Helena Blavatsky. The secret doctrine

Thanks. Will look it up .

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