What is Leo's main shtick really about? Psychonautics vs. Spirituality

[Carl-Richard]

8 hours ago, Razard86 said:

There is no distinction between meditative states and psychedelic states. I have a friend who literally transferred his psychedelic trips to me. I didn't see visuals but I experienced the trips when I fell asleep on meditation music with feeling. So you can have psychedelic level trips without visuals through feeling which is just vibration anyway. 

I would suggest more people meditate with chakra music and runs some tests on their own. You may be surprised to see....there is no difference really.

Again, let me suggest that you're talking about the overlap. They're still different states, by the obvious fact that psychedelics cause visuals and meditation don't.

[Danioover9000]

   Psychedelics and spirituality have in common:

   Both are sitting still, and both get excited.

   Difference: One is human, the other a plant.

[Carl-Richard]

9 hours ago, Swarnim said:

So I have a question in that would you agree if I said that both the persons in the categories exist on the same 'line'(where a higher state is a higher point on the line) 

Where does heroin exist on that line? Salvia Divinorum? Ketamine? Cocaine? Caffeine? If states and growth are on the same line, why can you not integrate these states into your baseline?

Edited October 6, 2022 by Carl-Richard

[caspex]

19 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Where does heroin exist on that line? Salvia Divinorum? Ketamine? Cocaine? Caffeine? If states and growth are on the same line, why can you not integrate these states into your baseline?

I see, so you mean entire different lines. Your model makes sense to me now. Thanks.

[JosephKnecht]

You guys are wrong. His main shtick is neither psychedelics nor spirituality. 

His main shtick is Absolute Beauty.  

[UnbornTao]

@JosephKnecht That's what I was talking about the entire time. 

Edited October 6, 2022 by UnbornTao

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, vladorion said:

It's not a fact that Leo has seen from higher up the mountain than any other human. You just believe it because he said so.

He also has no way of knowing it.

When you fully realize that you are INFINITY, you will become the only Awake thing that could ever exist.

The final Awakening is so Absolute that it leaves you Alone forever. You are so infinitely conscious that no conscious being can ever exist outside yourself. And you know this Absolutely. It's not a guess.

That's what I reached.

Edited October 6, 2022 by Leo Gura

[RyanK]

It’s amusing to see how annoyed people get at Leo when he’s so upfront and honest. People sometimes see it as arrogance, but it’s really not. I appreciate how he just says it how it is, without buttering it up for people. That’s how I like to hear things.  He’s not saying he’s better than anyone else, just pointing to The Truth. I see it as very loving ❤️?

[thepixelmonk]

2 minutes ago, RyanK said:

It’s amusing to see how annoyed people get at Leo when he’s so upfront and honest. People sometimes see it as arrogance, but it’s really not. I appreciate how he just says it how it is, without buttering it up for people. That’s how I like to hear things.  He’s not saying he’s better than anyone else, just pointing to The Truth. I see it as very loving ❤️?

100%

[Devin]

42 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

When you fully realize that you are INFINITY, you will become the only Awake thing that could ever exist.

The final Awakening is so Absolute that it leaves you Alone forever. You are so infinitely conscious that no conscious being can ever exist outside yourself. And you know this Absolutely. It's not a guess.

That's what I reached.

that's not infinity, that's a limit you're believing

[Leo Gura]

43 minutes ago, Devin said:

that's not infinity, that's a limit you're believing

It's not infinity, it's INFINITY

[Devin]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

It's not infinity, it's INFINITY

Just don't want to see you limiting yourself

[Carl-Richard]

Do I need to say more? 

Edited October 6, 2022 by Carl-Richard

[Devin]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

Do I need to say more? 

Okay, don't misunderstand what I meant, he can limit himself with the dmt that wouldn't hurt my feelings

Edited October 7, 2022 by Devin

[Carl-Richard]

14 minutes ago, Devin said:

Okay, don't misunderstand what I meant, he can limit himself with the dmt that wouldn't hurt my feelings

I'm was not responding to anyone.

[Breakingthewall]

yes, you become infinite and it is obvious that nothing exists outside of you, you are absolute. but then you become relative , and that is no longer the case! apparently there are infinity of individuals. they are all the same, but in a different shape. it is obvious that they exist. Let's see, you, like infinity, will you ever be someone else? In the future right? then there is another. This is it, there is no doubt. And how many others are you going to be in your infinite time? so infinite. And what is the difference between you are going to be or be now? none. So, right now, you, the one absolute, are being infinitely different forms. Why you denying de obvious? 

the only way that there would be no other povs would be to say that you will never, in eternity, embody another pov, all eternity is this moment and me sitting on a terrace typing the phone. if not, it is that there are infinite pov. and those of you who deny it, it seems that you do it to appear mysterious or to follow the dogma. it is obvious that there are infinite pov!

Edited October 8, 2022 by Breakingthewall

[Thought Art]

 

[Alex_R]

So it was only just myself ?

[Carl-Richard]

@Alex_R ?

[Razard86]

11 minutes ago, Alex_R said:

So it was only just myself ?

Yep. But not the human you, the screen of awareness that holds whatever you are experiencing the totality of everything within that frame is you. 

Edited December 23, 2022 by Razard86