Freaks of Nature Mega-Thread

[The Crocodile]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

All of this is litterally hearsay.

You are believing people.

That was my only point here.

It doesn't matter what Campbell or Ra says because to you it's just a story.

Campbell goes not understand what God is.

I know Campbell is a dirty atheist, and he thinks consciousness is a computer.

Also you are assuming to me it's just a story, when I could be directly conscious of what it is, like how a mathematician doing calculus is conscious of the calculus part of reality that other people can't bear.

You seem to only understand the topmost part of reality (The Absolute) and a lower part (the physical universe). Everything that must exist in between and all the various realms you can become conscious of through occultism, you attribute either to the topmost part (it's being Imagined by God) or the lower part (delusions and fantasies of the human / mind).

That's why your Cat Infinity doesn't go far enough.

 

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

I know Campbell is a dirty atheist

I don't think he's an atheist.

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Also you are assuming to me it's just a story

Have you spoken to Ra?

Do you have direct experience of how the pyramids were built and by whom?

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you can become conscious of through occultism, you attribute either to the topmost part (it's being Imagined by God) or the lower part (delusions and fantasies of the human / mind).

I have a pretty low opinion of occultists because I have seen how their minds work and I was not impressed, to put it kindly. Most of them are pre-rational minds with very poor epistemology who believe whatever their intuitions tell them and whatever New Age stuff they read.

Any kind of factual information gotten from the occult realms should be very suspect. Like how the pyramids were built. That is a factual material question.

If you actually bother to study some archaeology and Egyptology you will see it was clearly built by human hands. Maybe they had some help from aliens by way of contact or information exchange. I am open to that.

Edited December 29, 2024 by Leo Gura

[Buck Edwards]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't think he's an atheist.

Have you spoken to Ra?

Do you have direct experience of how the pyramids were built and by whom?

I have a pretty low opinion of occultists because I have seen how their minds work and I was not impressed, to put it kindly. Most of them are pre-rational minds with very poor epistemology who believe whatever their intuitions tell them and whatever New Age stuff they read.

Any kind of factual information gotten from the occult realms should be very suspect. Like how the pyramids were built. That is a factual material question.

I don't see much difference between occultists and conspiracy theorists. 

[The Crocodile]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

I don't think he's an atheist.

He says infinity is a logical impossibility. And that all real information is finite. He's a doofus.

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Have you spoken to Ra?

Yes.

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You have direct experience of how the pyramids were built and for what purpose?

Direct experience with pyramids, yes. For Christmas my Nana got me a quartz crystal pyramid 2/3 filled with orgonite lapis lazuli, a geometric golden seal on the inside, a layer of golden flakes as topsoil on the lazuli, and a small quartz crystal tower to the tip with a copper wire wrapped around it. I placed the pyramid on top of Google Earth satellite imagery of Tehran to give Ali Khameini spiritual experience and weaken the power of the IRGC by listening to music and watching energy pulsate to the rhythm of the music. The energy is not visualized or imagined, it's actually seen as if it's physically there, and it is. The satellite imagery functions like a real-time voodoo doll, and the density and size of the energy particles, lines, force have a real direct interaction with the satellite coordinates. If a flake of energy covers so much distance on the map it covers so much in real life, if it's intensity is this bright and present it has that same comparison in real life.

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I have a pretty low opinion of occultists because I have seen how their minds work and I was not impressed, to put it kindly. Most of them are pre-rational minds with very poor epistemology who believe what their intuitions tell them.

Most of them are pretending.

That's the best view of skepticism.

Just look through the lens of everybody being pretenders who don't value the real thing. Most people who talk about anything, don't know what it is. Spirituality and occultism are alike there, but occultism is worse, because the pretend varieties based on visualization and "systems" and then pre-rational minds with poor epistemology and piggery running rampant.

But the real thing is the real thing.

 

[mysticalninja]

Best Scrabble player in the world (Nigel Richards) just won the Spanish World Championship without speaking spanish.  He has also won the French Scrabble Championship twice without speaking the language - just by memorizing the entire dictionary in another language.  That on top of winning the USA/UK chamionships 5+ times each. 

[Leo Gura]

28 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

He says infinity is a logical impossibility. And that all real information is finite. He's a doofus.

Yeah, I know. He's very wrong about Infinity. However I still think his model is centered around God. He just doesn't understand that God is Infinity.

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Yes.

But how do you know what he tells you is true? That's still hearsay.

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Direct experience with pyramids, yes. For Christmas my Nana got me a quartz crystal pyramid 2/3 filled with orgonite lapis lazuli, a geometric golden seal on the inside, a layer of golden flakes as topsoil on the lazuli, and a small quartz crystal tower to the tip with a copper wire wrapped around it. I placed the pyramid on top of Google Earth satellite imagery of Tehran to give Ali Khameini spiritual experience and weaken the power of the IRGC by listening to music and watching energy pulsate to the rhythm of the music.

What the hell does this have to do with how the pyramids of Egypt were built?

I have the very orgonite of which you speak. My New Age ex-girlfriend gave it to me for Valentines day. It sits on my bookshelf.

Edited December 29, 2024 by Leo Gura

[The Crocodile]

@Leo Gura Do you think the pyramids were built by humans? And if so, advanced humans or the less advanced humans history claims? I think the lowest energy state for a person thinking about this openly and with actual comprehension and stuff is just that it was not built by ordinary means, because of the size and precision of the cuts. If someone thinks otherwise it's just peer pressure.

 

I also have a special book with the names written down of Donald John Trump, James David Vance (born James Donald Bowman), Elon Reeve Musk, every elected member of the new US Congress, many Russian generals and putin and security council, every single Ukrainian regiment in its military, Ukrainian generals and security council / Zelenskyy, the Knesset, the Hamas leaders in Turkey and Gaza, the Turkish president and cabinet and parliament, the Hezbollah leaders, the Iranian Expediency Council and Guardian Council and Khameini and Parliament and officers of the IRGC and Artesh and Basij and Police, the Chinese Central Committee and many Chinese generals, the King and Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, the emir and deputy emir and prime minister of Qatar, as well as the emirs of the UAE. And Destiny. 

I'm able to put my consciousness inside the emanations of the person at various connections, using the names to keep track as a correlation, creating substance of what I'm conscious of. You can take the Infinity as a physicalized or mentalized substance that can be remotely transported. I take Infinite Intelligence of Nothingness and the infinite harmonics and change of this and interconnection and can put it into them at the levels of subatomic, atomic, molecular, organelles, cellular, tissues, higher-order structure (this just means size doesn't escape any of it).

This Infinite Intelligence is different from the Infinite Intelligence that's already present, this is deeper, infinitely. And a specific will can be attached or had or been by the Infinite Intelligence placed within the person.

 

 

[The Crocodile]

 

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What the hell does this have to do with how the pyramids of Egypt were built?

I have the very orgonite of which you speak. My New Age ex-girlfriend gave it to me for Valentines day. 

It does have to do with the pyramids of Egypt because of the function of how a crystalline pyramid can be used (and originally the pyramid did have metals and gold and diamond on it, while much of it was/is quartz and marble), because it's a microcosmic principle, but I just said it because it's funny. It's funny because it's truthful and absurd at the same time.

If you had big pyramids strategically placed across the world it could unify human culture and change the world.

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

just that it was not built by ordinary means, because of the size and precision of the cuts.

Or you just underestimate the craftiness of our ancestors.

But either way, you are speculating and making all sorts of assumptions.

This thread has gotten way off topic. If you wish to discuss this further, start a new thread.

Edited December 29, 2024 by Leo Gura

[- Adam -]

Beyond particular details about the pyramids, the message of the Law of One seems quite genuinly spiritual.

The phenomenon is interesting to say the least.

[Greatnestwithin]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yeah, I know. He's very wrong about Infinity. However I still think his model is centered around God. He just doesn't understand that God is Infinity.

But how do you know what he tells you is true? That's still hearsay.

What the hell does this have to do with how the pyramids of Egypt were built?

I have the very orgonite of which you speak. My New Age ex-girlfriend gave it to me for Valentines day. It sits on my bookshelf.

@Leo Gura why did your last relationship end? And what did you learn new, or remembered, about yourself in that?¿

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Greatnestwithin said:

@Leo Gura why did your last relationship end? And what did you learn new, or remembered, about yourself in that?¿

It ended because we were not compatible in fundamental ways. Our values were contradictory and it took time to see that.

Edited December 29, 2024 by Leo Gura

[The Crocodile]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This thread has gotten way off topic. If you wish to discuss this further, start a new thread.

No, we are genetic freaks. We determine what's on topic.

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Or you just underestimate the craftiness of our ancestors.

This is absurd, man.

The Occam's Razor explanation is that it was built by aliens.

You're the one making assumptions out of peer pressure that humans must have made it somehow.

[Greatnestwithin]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It ended because we were not compatible in fundamental ways. Our values were contradictory and it took time to see that.

@Leo Gura thanks for sharing man. I get it. When you say your values were contradictory, you mean in the sense of my partner wants kids or a nomad lifestyle or more like my partner values more independence, than I want in a relationship. Or how do go about knowing that certain values are incompatible? 

[Kairos]

27 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

@Leo Gura Do you think the pyramids were built by humans? And if so, advanced humans or the less advanced humans history claims? I think the lowest energy state for a person thinking about this openly and with actual comprehension and stuff is just that it was not built by ordinary means, because of the size and precision of the cuts. If someone thinks otherwise it's just peer pressure.

 

I also have a special book with the names written down of Donald John Trump, James David Vance (born James Donald Bowman), Elon Reeve Musk, every elected member of the new US Congress, many Russian generals and putin and security council, every single Ukrainian regiment in its military, Ukrainian generals and security council / Zelenskyy, the Knesset, the Hamas leaders in Turkey and Gaza, the Turkish president and cabinet and parliament, the Hezbollah leaders, the Iranian Expediency Council and Guardian Council and Khameini and Parliament and officers of the IRGC and Artesh and Basij and Police, the Chinese Central Committee and many Chinese generals, the King and Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, the emir and deputy emir and prime minister of Qatar, as well as the emirs of the UAE. And Destiny. 

I'm able to put my consciousness inside the emanations of the person at various connections, using the names to keep track as a correlation, creating substance of what I'm conscious of. You can take the Infinity as a physicalized or mentalized substance that can be remotely transported. I take Infinite Intelligence of Nothingness and the infinite harmonics and change of this and interconnection and can put it into them at the levels of subatomic, atomic, molecular, organelles, cellular, tissues, higher-order structure (this just means size doesn't escape any of it).

This Infinite Intelligence is different from the Infinite Intelligence that's already present, this is deeper, infinitely. And a specific will can be attached or had or been by the Infinite Intelligence placed within the person.

 

 

Wtf bro are you high rn ?

[Leo Gura]

12 minutes ago, Greatnestwithin said:

@Leo Gura thanks for sharing man. I get it. When you say your values were contradictory, you mean in the sense of my partner wants kids or a nomad lifestyle or more like my partner values more independence, than I want in a relationship. Or how do go about knowing that certain values are incompatible? 

She was a very New Age person who lives in so much New Age fantasy and so unwilling to deconstruct that fantasy that I cannot live with such a girl. My whole life is about deconstructing illusions and her whole life is about playing inside illusions. There were other factors but that was the most serious one.

Edited December 29, 2024 by Leo Gura

[The Crocodile]

2 minutes ago, Kairos said:

Wtf bro are you high rn ?

I am naturally high.

7 minutes ago, Greatnestwithin said:

@Leo Gura thanks for sharing man. I get it. When you say your values were contradictory, you mean in the sense of my partner wants kids or a nomad lifestyle or more like my partner values more independence, than I want in a relationship. Or how do go about knowing that certain values are incompatible? 

I think it's because she was into crystals and magic and shit and irrational energy. Leo valued Truth; she valued subjective emotional truth.

 

[Greatnestwithin]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

She was a very New Age person who lives in so much New Age fantasy and so unwilling to deconstruct that fantasy that I cannot live with such a girl. My whole life is about deconstructing illusions and her whole life is about playing inside illusions. There were other factors but that was the most serious one.

@Leo Gura So how do you work with perhaps *the fact /not sure/ that you will keep on being attracted to this kind of women, maybe because they have something to offer? For you to integrate in your way of being ( perhaps to embody the full yess to be and play within this illusion), but also standing in what you value in a relationship and hope to see.

like isn't the whole point of a relationship to actually integrate in us what we most judge in them, to embody love in ways we didn´t  know we could
,while also playing the illusion of having someone in your life, to have fun, be there, create stuff etc 

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Greatnestwithin said:

you will keep on being attracted to this kind of women

I have no problem being attracted to other kinds of women. It's not like I have some uncontrollable fetish for New Age girls.

Obviously I understand that any woman I date will require me to make certain compromises and consider other perspectives than my own, requiring me to grow. But there are still girls who are just incompatible with me.

[Leo Gura]

Please, we need to return this thread back to the topic of freaks.

Move other topics of discussion to new threads.