Deconstructing Buddhism: Simple Reasons Why Buddhism Is False

[amanen]

3 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yes, but we are all time talking about it because we are addicted to the truth and we don't realize the truth more than some moments. The rest of time the truth is almost here, but veiled. Of course, everything is the truth, but we are lost in the veils

It's always here, never almost here. It's not hidden or veiled. You might not be conscious of what the truth is at all times, but it nevertheless is still always here. It doesn't go away.

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, amanen said:

It's always here, never almost here. It's not hidden or veiled. You might not be conscious of what the truth is at all times, but it nevertheless is still always here. It doesn't go away.

Yeah, it's absolute, it's me, there is nothing else. Outside have no sense. But I'm doing a constant activity which consists in temporarily projecting towards the future and the past, in deluding myself with ideas of what should be. in short, to avoid being present at all costs. I've been doing it all my life and I can't stop doing it for a second, except if I take some psychedelic. this activity is the veil. this activity is also the truth, like everything else, but it has the ability to create an imaginary world

[axiom]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

But I'm doing a constant activity

You’re not doing anything.

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, axiom said:

You’re not doing anything.

How i could, if there is not i? But still it's happening (apparently)

Edited September 24, 2022 by Breakingthewall

[Jake Chambers]

11 hours ago, RedLine said:A cessation event is where unconscious sub-minds remain tuned in and receptive to the contents of consciousness, while at the same time, none of them project any content into consciousness. Then, consciousness ceases—completely. During that period, at the level of consciousness there is a complete cessation of mental fabrications of any kind—of the illusory, mind-generated world that otherwise dominates every conscious moment. This, of course, also entails a complete cessation of craving, intention, and suffering. The only information that tuned in sub-minds receive during this event is the fact of a total absence.

 

To be clear, there is no actual “experience” of “consciousness without an object” during the cessation event, nor could there possibly be. That experience, like any other, is a construct of the mind, and in this case is generated after the cessation event has already ended. How the memory of a cessation event is interpreted retrospectively takes many forms, depending on the views and beliefs held by the person whose mind is doing the interpreting. Thus, the cessation event itself is not a mental construct, but the subsequent interpretations are entirely constructed.

 

Culadasa

Sounds very dualistic how they frame it. Assuming all kinds of distinctions about consciousness.

[RMQualtrough]

Spirituality is idiotic and angering. The communities are angering... The shit people say is angering...

"Alleviating suffering" is, for once very literally, cope. Lolz. Being "awake" is dogshit also.

I think probably, it is best when a person is over fear of dying and just carries on a normal human life completely, just without that element.

[Razard86]

On 9/23/2022 at 11:10 PM, r0ckyreed said:

It makes much more sense now to think of God as the subconscious and ego as the conscious part of Mind.  But then again, this useful model isn't God.  I must throw away all models and maps in the end, but I will start with what I got for now.  At least I arrived at my own conclusion and made that understanding my own.  It makes it all seem more truthful than blindly believing in the model of Buddhism.  

I even see the issue deeper now.  Truth is so personal and private.  It cannot be shared with anyone because to even talk about it or think about it is to model it and all models aren't the experience itself.  All models and beliefs are ultimately untrue.  Saying it as subconscious and conscious helps me make sense of It but may be interpreted in many ways that limit It.

Buddhism is another model.  It has its own utility.  It has greatly helped me understand my own suffering.  Buddhism has been very inspirational for me to meditate and to become a healer.  Buddhism has gifted me a beautiful perspective into the natures of suffering, happiness, and self.  The first time I studied Buddhism in college, I loved it.  I fell in love with it.  I became attached to it and considered myself a Buddhist but I realized that I was just playing another ego game of attaching to another thought system.  I deconstruct Buddhism not because I hate it but because I care about truth more.  If there is even such a thing as a true Buddhist, then I think they would share a similar love for truth and detachment from all belief-systems including Buddhism itself. 

I agree completely with this post!!! So mature, authentic, and truthful!! This is the perspective that will carry you to the answers you are seeking!!

[RMQualtrough]

On 24/09/2022 at 11:20 PM, axiom said:

@kieranperez 

I enjoyed your last couple of posts.

Buddhism, like all teachings, is ultimately seen to be meaningless - simply fuel for the ‘I’ to feast upon, to continue with its expectations and hopes.

As per my signature… all paths lead to a deeper unreality. They keep the ‘I’ going.

In real awakening, all spiritual paths - just like all peak experiences (no matter how profound) - are transcended, seen simply as story. They never actually happened.

And of course, this includes awakening itself. Awakening never actually happens.

 

When you say X or Y never actually happens etc, why do you say that? Is this one of those things where people draw the line of "reality" at different polarities?

It seems that in fact the moment of total unreality is the exact very moment of the most absolute UNCLOUDED pristine reality there ever is.

Believing there is a self character and all of those things, and then any tiny notion or concept of such a thing just outright vanishing. For real. Is sort of like when you have anxious thoughts and kinda get lost in your head then something snaps out of it. And for a moment everything seems so pristine as the crazed thoughts stop.

[Ry4n]

On 24/9/2022 at 7:37 AM, Leo Gura said:

The nice thing about my teachings is that they are 100% empirical. You can easily test them out using the methods I suggested.

It's a hell of a lot faster than testing out Buddhism.

Ehhhh recommending 300+ trips (especially with 5meo of all psychs) is kinda wack advice for most people dude, including people on the forum imo. Psychedelics are great but no one needs that much, or maybe just you do, which is fine whatever it takes, but most people won't need that much. It's just irresponsible to advice so much.

Edited September 29, 2022 by Ry4n

[Kuba Powiertowski]

Realization, knowing that you are God, Infinity, Nothingness, or whatever you want, is one great oxymoron. Realization and cognition mean something finite, and a limited mind functions in these terms. AND YOU ARE. ALWAYS. THERE IS NO SUCH POSSIBILITY FOR YOU TO STOP BEING. You can experience whatever you want there - everything, nothingness, and what is in between and argue with others - with yourself, whose experience is more. It has no consequences for your ever being. That's it, Gods

[Kuba Powiertowski]

Leave all concepts for a while, then maybe you will remember that you are, just like that. YOU ARE ALWAYS. YOU NEVER STOP BEING. IS IT NOT ENOUGH TO GET ALL FEARS TO COME OFF?

[RMQualtrough]

5 hours ago, Ry4n said:

Ehhhh recommending 300+ trips (especially with 5meo of all psychs) is kinda wack advice for most people dude, including people on the forum imo. Psychedelics are great but no one needs that much, or maybe just you do, which is fine whatever it takes, but most people won't need that much. It's just irresponsible to advice so much.

Leo himself only does 300 trips because he's like Adam from PsychedSubstance. He gets "high" on these drugs and then exactly like Adam tries to convince himself that jerking it in the bathtub while watching porn is some sort of serious breakthrough experience rather than addict behaviors. If he vaped it proper like at toad ceremonies which he could afford to attend, then 300 masturbation trips wouldn't be necessary.

[Vynce]

On 29.9.2022 at 8:22 PM, RMQualtrough said:

Leo himself only does 300 trips because he's like Adam from PsychedSubstance. He gets "high" on these drugs and then exactly like Adam tries to convince himself that jerking it in the bathtub while watching porn is some sort of serious breakthrough experience rather than addict behaviors. If he vaped it proper like at toad ceremonies which he could afford to attend, then 300 masturbation trips wouldn't be necessary.

Although, I definitely noticed how Truth won't reveal itself in just a little psychedelics experimentation sequence. Truth and God is the spiciest thing there is. So it does not want to deliver itself so easily. It would ruin the spiciness of it all. My recent notion to speedrun absolute understanding with psychedelics has disappointed me big time. There is no speed run. This game allows itself to be infinite.

[amanen]

2 hours ago, Vynce said:

Although, I definitely noticed how Truth won't reveal itself in just a little psychedelics experimentation sequence. Truth and God is the spiciest thing there is. So it does not want to deliver itself so easily. It would ruin the spiciness of it all. My recent notion to speedrun absolute understanding with psychedelics has disappointed me big time. There is no speed run. This game allows itself to be infinite.

I disagree. I realized that I am God within 6-8 trips with no previous knowledge of the potential of transpersonal experiences and no previous relation to spirituality or meditation. I originally started tripping recreationally. It was purely due to me surrendering to the trip. After that all my trips were awakening related. God isn't hiding anywhere, whether it takes you a year or 80 years is up to you, but no hurry. Though obviously my experiences at that time were not total, I still completely grasped nonduality and Love with no previous views on these topics.

Edited October 2, 2022 by amanen

[Leo Gura]

On 9/29/2022 at 5:31 AM, Ry4n said:

Ehhhh recommending 300+ trips (especially with 5meo of all psychs) is kinda wack advice for most people dude, including people on the forum imo. Psychedelics are great but no one needs that much, or maybe just you do, which is fine whatever it takes, but most people won't need that much. It's just irresponsible to advice so much.

I consider that a minimum.

You're not gonna understand consciousness with less than 100 trips.

The method is simple, concrete, and empirical. Do it or shut up about God.

Edited October 2, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Jodistrict]

 I am beginning to wonder about the shaman’s dose.  The fraternity brother can chug 25 beers in less than 5 minutes.  However, there is even a greater brother who can chug 30 beers in less than 5 minutes.  Is the fraternity brother a greater shaman or just insensitive?  The other path is that less is better.  Develop your sensitivity and go into the journey calm and relaxed.  When you go into the silence, the silence teaches you.     

[Vynce]

12 hours ago, amanen said:

I disagree. I realized that I am God within 6-8 trips with no previous knowledge of the potential of transpersonal experiences and no previous relation to spirituality or meditation. I originally started tripping recreationally. It was purely due to me surrendering to the trip. After that all my trips were awakening related. God isn't hiding anywhere, whether it takes you a year or 80 years is up to you, but no hurry. Though obviously my experiences at that time were not total, I still completely grasped nonduality and Love with no previous views on these topics.

Grasping it once is cool. But can you grasp Gods nature here and now? 

Can you feel it (God) in this random, ambivalent moment? 

If you are like me, probably no. That's why some cool awakenings here and there will not allow us to see the intelligence of God anytime and anywhere. 

Which means we have to go deeper

[amanen]

37 minutes ago, Vynce said:

Grasping it once is cool. But can you grasp Gods nature here and now? 

Can you feel it (God) in this random, ambivalent moment? 

If you are like me, probably no. That's why some cool awakenings here and there will not allow us to see the intelligence of God anytime and anywhere. 

Which means we have to go deeper

I can feel God to a very lesser extent most of the time, but this is more like a slight baseline increase rather than a constant deep awakening, so yeah I would say it's closer to not feeling it at all.

And of course, there is always deeper to go, I was just pointing out that the initial realization can occur quickly, that doesn't mean there is nothing more to do after that, in fact there is so much to God you can never exhaust it.

[Razard86]

20 hours ago, Vynce said:

Although, I definitely noticed how Truth won't reveal itself in just a little psychedelics experimentation sequence. Truth and God is the spiciest thing there is. So it does not want to deliver itself so easily. It would ruin the spiciness of it all. My recent notion to speedrun absolute understanding with psychedelics has disappointed me big time. There is no speed run. This game allows itself to be infinite.

So true....it reveals itself at its own pace, well more accurately at the pace you can handle. No more, no less. In fact it reveals to you your own pace. Its a beautiful thing to know that reality itself is you and loves you unconditionally....I love it!!

[Razard86]

3 hours ago, amanen said:

I can feel God to a very lesser extent most of the time, but this is more like a slight baseline increase rather than a constant deep awakening, so yeah I would say it's closer to not feeling it at all.

And of course, there is always deeper to go, I was just pointing out that the initial realization can occur quickly, that doesn't mean there is nothing more to do after that, in fact there is so much to God you can never exhaust it.

^This is so true, its why I laugh when I see people on the forums that think God realization is the end point....you can awaken to so much more deeper truths....this thing we call reality can be looked at from an infinite amount of lens. There is nothing wrong with stopping of course....but what exploration could be more satisfying? I can't help wanting to know more....every single day.