Tik Tik is really a illegal site.

[mmKay]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

But yes, TikTok is poisoning kids.

I accidentally watched this and it's been in my head for three days. They manage to make it sticky AF

[Danioover9000]

   Basic intro to Tik Tok if you guys don't know:

 

[D2sage]

Young people have the digital world as their primary reality.

The real outdoor world is like a playground for them.

Even kids at 5-6 are using Tik Tok.

There's a great book:

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by D2sage

[Danioover9000]

@Tahuti

1 hour ago, Tahuti said:

I was only kidding. I haven't seen any nudity on the platform. I only see straight booty shaking. I love tiktoks algorithm. It shows you exactly what you want to see. Stop complaining and use other apps if you don't like tiktok.

   Tik Tok still continues showing minors showing off their nudes, while getting encouraged by fucking chat to continue being sexual while Tik Tok's algorithm continues to keep showing that type of content to those types of users, and the A.I is designed to continue doing so with little moral check and balance, just as much as Tik Tok is continuing to show you even more booty shaking vids. I'm complaining because I am still a decent human being seeing how fucked up Tik Tok is and how damaging it is to those young minds, sorry if you are lower in cognitive and moral development than I am, hold different values than I, and have different life experiences than I have using social media platforms, and sorry if I threatened your attachments to Tik Tok.

[Danioover9000]

@Tahuti

1 hour ago, Tahuti said:

This is all social media platforms. Watch "social dilemma movie" for more information on attention engineering. 

   I don't like how you are flattening out and generalizing Tik Tok's hyper toxic business practices and parasitic mind behaviors towards all forms of social media, and all forms of media. That's like taking a specific murder case and attempting to flatten and defend the murderer by saying "Well, all humans kill and murder anyways. Just read human history for more information on selfish humans killing each other.".

   Yes, there's attention engineering, which is a facet of society, business and marketing, but making appeals to that as justification for Tic Toc's destruction of the youth is sloppy and irresponsible thinking.

[Leo Gura]

A kid making money from bending over her ass is pretty whorey behavior in my book.

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, KH2 said:

BUT LEO! THAT'S TOXIC MASCULINITY! CHECK YOURSELF!

That's more like toxic femininity.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Tahuti said:

I wonder how much they make..

Put on a girl filter, bend over your ass, and find out

[mmKay]

28 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Put on a girl filter, bend over your ass, and find out

 

[Fuku]

On 21/09/2022 at 8:29 AM, KH2 said:

My future kid won't be using any of this shit, that's for sure.

Will be too busy reading Aristotle, and/or going out.

Maybe. But maybe not. Surely, parents can help kids grow in less shallow ways, but I'm sure there's plenty of examples of parents doing the right things as much as they canm yet still losing control. Hell, even we as "responsible adults" know what the better things to do are but we still fuck up.

So you can control a kid up to a certain point, but then other things interact. Social pressure to do the same as the other kids, the way the society we live in communicate to us. A kid won't take your word 100% until he dies. He'll experience and test the parent's authority.

Anyway, that shouldn't stop us to try our best to raise kids if we do, but I've seen kids, or adults, raise by parents that certainly didn't obtain the results they were going for. Parenthood seems like the most complicated thing ever, requiring an extremeeely hard to achieve balance, in order to get the results you think are the best for the child.

 

Otherwise...Seeing kids zombified on tiktok certainly annoys me. And it certainly is more powerful than what we, older people, might have had experienced by other means growing up. I mean, Other social medias, Internet in general, video games, television...

But

I think it is also kind of wrong thinking that this will absolutely destroy them. I was overhearing kids talking Tiktok and memeing, and was super mad, but then I remembered. We were like that in our own way. We had our ways of numbing ourselves (and still do but hey), ones that our parents and adult society in general were thinking as badly off as we do of Tiktok.

Won't these kids grow up?

Did video games and Internet fuck us up and make us unable to think straight, for extended periods of time, and have ambitions at all?

 

And, last point : we cannot stop Tiktok. we cannot stop society evolving the way it does.

You think your kids will not have Tiktok? They'll have worse. Look at how fast technology is evolving. Deepfakes, IA generating believable pictures so easily just based on a few words...and of course, the long-awaited  technology-fueled dystopias (I'll leave the opinion to each individual, since I am not sure that transhumanism would actually be such as bad thing as it seems) based on old science-fiction concepts

 

So why fight it? Why not make the best we can of this train? Youtube is full of cringy dumb stuff right? Is this all the medium gives to us? Certainly not. It changed my life personnally, since I was able to learned form so many teachers as opposed to way older times were you'd have to believe that one popular book or person in the media without being able to have much sources or alternatives.

Tiktok is pretty fucking damn addictive. Not gonna lie. I do uninstall the app every now and then because it's hard to stop scrolling. And it certainly doesn't have a way to help brains get stronger or learn better. But, I love the very condensed and quick aspect of it for glancing at a given subject, Then it's all yours to get down down a rabbithole there or on some other platform or book.

Also, for simple fun and comedic purposes, it sometimes does a very interesting job or being able to catch attention and be creative with so little. This is an interesting form of creativity in a way.

 

But yeah, besides that, child porn bad. Just don't make the tool 100% evil or just point it and say how bad it is, because again you won't stop it (by all means, do report problematic child content of course, but just like you would on any other platform), and I don't think this is very enriching to act that way.

 

All that being said...I might be biased. Shit is addictive so I might try to defend it more that it should be?

Edited September 23, 2022 by Fuku

[Danioover9000]

   Why is Tik Tok created in the first place?

[Yog]

Poor kids these days, especially the girls.

It would probably take decades to repair all that mental damage.

[D2sage]

I read that in China the algorithm is different so people don't get brainless content.

 

[Guru Peter Jordanson]

TikTok is also an OnlyFans pipeline. Influential TikTokers advertise themselves to young men to join their OnlyFans and then generate revenues by posting explicit content.

[Danioover9000]

LOL! Tik Tok might get sued after all:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/tiktok-could-face-27m-fine-for-endangering-children/ar-AA12freP?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=5632e8730c1b4edbafc86ac81f83a17c