Posted September 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, Haloman said: ...said a stranger following your daughter from school... Still all love, even your comment is love because you are making it to defend your position because you love children and do not want them to be hurt. You cannot escape love because YOU ARE LOVE. HI LOVE!!! NICE TO MEET YOU!!! You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Razard86 said: Still all love, even your comment is love because you are making it to defend your position because you love children and do not want them to be hurt. You cannot escape love because YOU ARE LOVE. HI LOVE!!! NICE TO MEET YOU!!! So it sounds that you as a loving father could watch how stranger uses his love stick to your daughter, because THE STRANGER IS LOVE. What a catch for every woman you are! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 17, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Haloman said: So it sounds that you as a loving father could watch how stranger uses his love stick to your daughter, because THE STRANGER IS LOVE. What a catch for every woman you are! Playing this manner of ego games with @Razard86 is unlikely to bear fruit. If you ask me, however, I say that children shouldn't have their minds sullied by the lewd things of adults argues a good man and a good citizen. Edited September 17, 2022 by JuliusCaesar forgot to write the word lewd in there Potestas Infinitas, Libertas Infinitas, Auctoritas Infinitas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 17, 2022 People justifying why paedos are only molesting children because they “love” them. and they simply just love children and how sexual attraction to children is normal and ok. now I will be told that I am the crazy one who simply doesn’t understand and isn’t conscious enough. Sorry but what bullshit this place is. I’m all for having empathy for said pedo because of his childhood etc, but don’t try and act like this is ok and it’s simply just love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 17, 2022 Pure Love oozing out of many different forms of limitation. This thread allowed me to get an awesome mind picture of what @Leo Gura said when 'love is like the play-doh bursting through different forms', or something similar. ? Pure expression of love getting to know itself in any way at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 17, 2022 i say that if you refuse to report your abuser you are perpetuating the potential abuse of others you may be healed yourself but that's not the end of the story consciousness demands that one do the right thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 17, 2022 19 hours ago, Leo Gura said: That's a serious misunderstanding of pedophilia. It's not about raping kids. That's like saying homosexuality is about raping men. Well, kids are considered vulnerable because they can't give (valid) consent to sex according to the law (might vary by country), men can give consent. Technically, all sexual interaction between kids and adults is considered rape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) Wait until you get such a traumatic experience like this in your life and having an infinitely loving asshole raping you and let's see if you would still call it love. The problem here is lack of experience. Its like trying to describe colors to a blind person. Impossible. Somethings need To be experienced firsthand before judging it . Edited September 18, 2022 by Someone here my mind is gone to a better place. I'm elevated ..going out of space . And I'm gone . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 18, 2022 24 minutes ago, Someone here said: Wait until you get such a traumatic experience like this in your life and having an infinitely loving asshole raping you and let's see if you would still call it love. The problem here is lack of experience. Its like trying to describe colors to a blind person. Impossible. Somethings need To be experienced firsthand before judging it . Jimmy Savile can help you experience assrape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, RMQualtrough said: Jimmy Savile can help you experience assrape. How do you know? Did he practiced on you before ? my mind is gone to a better place. I'm elevated ..going out of space . And I'm gone . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 18, 2022 22 hours ago, Recursoinominado said: Well, kids are considered vulnerable because they can't give (valid) consent to sex according to the law (might vary by country), men can give consent. Technically, all sexual interaction between kids and adults is considered rape. I am pretty sure Leo's experience is a clear case of statutory rape according to California. Obviously, we don't know all the fact so it's hard to tell. In any case it's baffling to see how many are beating around the bush and not calling it for what it is. Be cautious when a naked person offers you a t-shirt. - African proverb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 18, 2022 abusing children is pure shit. children are not for be used, they are to give them the best. Like the elders. The problem is that children are used in a thousand other disgusting ways, such as to make their miserable parents feel that their life has any meaning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) On 9/17/2022 at 7:19 AM, Recursoinominado said: Technically, all sexual interaction between kids and adults is considered rape. Maybe so legally, however in practice I can tell you that is pure BS. Kids are not as stupid as you think. They can in fact want and enjoy the experience. Again, not always. But to dismiss that as impossible is absurd. Trauma is not automatic. A kid can have a sexual experience with an adult and then they just go their sperate ways with no hard feelings. Just like any normal sexual encounter. Does this justify it being legal or acceptable? No. But don't call it rape. Rape means the person didn't want sex. A teen can certainly want sex. Girls used to be sold off into marriage in their teens. There is a deep biology to for it. Most girls can have kids at age 14. This is not some accident. If your body can make kids then you also want to fuck. Sex is not inherently abusive. These are independent variables. You can have sex with a goat without abusing it, or you can abuse the goat without even having sex with it. The sad fact is that many parents abuse their own kids worse than sex. You guys are no appreciating how twisted love is. And just because something is love does not mean you have to allow it. Hitler was love and it's proper that his movement was killed. There is no contradiction. Recognizing the love in Hitler does not in any way condone his behavior or ideology. I'm fully aware that all of Hitler's actions were love. However I would support this assassination -- because that too is love. Edited September 18, 2022 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) Here's something really profound you guys are missing: if a kid was seriously molested and abused by a pedophile, the only way that kid will be able to fully heal himself is by finally realizing that pedophilia is just love. That's what full integration will require. And so long as you're stuck on demonizing it, you will actually not allow the kid to heal. Which is sad. You are making a bad situation worse. Demonization is never truthful nor conscious. And it is antithetical to healing. Hating your abuser is going go double your hurt. So an intelligent mind would not do that to itself. Cool how love works, huh? To paraphrase a classic Gandhi quote: True love is to love them who abuse you. Just don't be so stupid as to think this means you must tolerate active abuse. Edited September 18, 2022 by Leo Gura You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 18, 2022 Yeah, love your enemies. If not life is bitter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Someone here said: Wait until you get such a traumatic experience like this in your life and having an infinitely loving asshole raping you and let's see if you would still call it love. The problem here is lack of experience. Its like trying to describe colors to a blind person. Impossible. Somethings need To be experienced firsthand before judging it . All love, you project your lack of experience onto others, suffering actually makes you more loving. But you are scared of suffering that is why you say what you say. The more suffering you experience, the more empathy of others you will have, and then eventually you will even see your suffering for the illusion that it is. But you have to first go through these stages first to understand. I've suffered plenty, its why I understand what Leo is saying completely.....all suffering is self-created....it is just resistance to what is. Its not easy, its not pretty, and eventually it will be realized, but it is truth. Infinity is every single thing....even self-mutilation, even rape, even suicide, every....freaking...thing....and it cannot be any other way. You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 18, 2022 If the abuse is serious and has damaged your life, in the end the only way out is to realize that you are your abuser. there is no other Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said: If the abuse is serious and has damaged your life, in the end the only way out is to realize that you are your abuser. there is no other What abuse isn't serious? Wisdom. Truth. Love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said: What abuse isn't serious? True, and all humans abuse of others, it's our curse. But there are levels that you can handle and other levels that push you to enlightenment as only solution Edited September 18, 2022 by Breakingthewall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
