You may wonder...what will my next dream be?

[Razard86]

Some people are wondering, what is the point of accepting everyone as me? What is the point of NOT judging and playing this game of separation? Easy....because there is a secret there. Remember how you are told you will be stuck in the cycle of death and rebirth if you are attached? Whoever you have the greatest hatred/fear of, THAT is who you will live your life through. You see, whatever you reject and deny, you are stating you do not understand them, so how do you truly understand what you don't at the highest level? By BEING it. So if you do not make your peace with all that is, and accept it all as you, then you will return as what you hate the most, and learn why what you hate the most is as it is!!! 

You have been playing this game of wanting to understand yourself forever!!!! So if a man's daughter is killed by a criminal and he dies with pain in his heart, he will live his life as the criminal and will kill his own daughter. You will understand and unify ALL OF YOU because it IS YOU. Any rejection/fear of what is YOU, you will unify by being it!!! 

Radical Implication of Oneness on a whole different perspective!!! LOL!!!

[Someone here]

1 hour ago, Razard86 said:

So if a man's daughter is killed by a criminal and he dies with pain in his heart, he will live his life as the criminal and will kill his own daughter.

What's your proof for reincarnation? 

 

[Godishere]

@Someone here dude.. seriously don't you claim to have these awakenings etc. Then you ask a question like this? Just saying, you even talk about 1st and 2nd order truth yourself. It's been said a million times on the forum. YOU ARE EVERYONE 

 

[Razard86]

24 minutes ago, Someone here said:

What's your proof for reincarnation? 

 

Lol why you asking me? Go verify it for yourself. I have. But to answer...this present moment. Sit down and think, if you think, and allow all that is to flow...you will get downloads. Or you can just ask someone else for proof....whatever you desire always comes to you. You can also deny it and resist it at every turn as well.

Also its not just limited to who you hate the most, it will be whatever is the strongest attachment you have which while usually your fear, can be someone you admire. I have a friend who described this whole process like zooming in and out of the dream. You are zooming into one perspective, and zooming out. You can zoom out and dream all simultaneously or you can zoom in and live through any of the infinite perspectives. Obviously this is much more complicated in how it is, words can't serve it justice but this is the best way it has been presented so far.

Edited September 15, 2022 by Razard86

[Someone here]

12 minutes ago, Godishere said:

@Someone here dude.. seriously don't you claim to have these awakenings etc. Then you ask a question like this? Just saying, you even talk about 1st and 2nd order truth yourself. It's been said a million times on the forum. YOU ARE EVERYONE 

 

I never claimed that I know what happens after death . In fact my recent awakening tells me that death doesn't even exist. Its something you are imagining.  

So nah ..you ain't everyone. There isn't a "everyone " .there is only YOU .if we want to be accurate. 

I don't know what happens after death .I only know that I'm eternal and will exist forever.  But the details escape me . Am I gonna reincarnate as a cat ?as a frog?  Go to other dimension? Same dimension?....all of that is unclear to me .

[Someone here]

@Razard86

Many people, including notable philosophers, stridently believe that we can never know anything for certain. That sets a very high bar for certainty, which we operate every day of our lives. Are you certain the floor will support your weight? Not 100% certain, but close enough that you are willing to step forward before testing the floor first. Imagine having to test everything before proceeding with the desired action. So, perhaps we can lower the bar on certainty to match what works for us on an everyday basis, rather than adhering to an impractical, even impossible, degree of certainty that some insist on before declaring certainty.

Regarding the rebirth fantasy..every version of an afterlife is a story of wishful thinking unsupported by hard evidence. Our certainty about any kind of afterlife including rebirth, or reincarnation, is nil, yet the story seems to provide a measure of comfort for those who are unsettled, unnerved by the prospect of the death of the body meaning lights out for consciousness, totally and forever. I get it; death is ugly, death is nasty; it looks really bad and smells even worse. Death means deep sadness, unbearable grief, inconsolable misery for those emotionally attached to the newly deceased. What harm can there be in the invention of stories of an afterlife? That is for you to decide.

[Razard86]

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Razard86

Many people, including notable philosophers, stridently believe that we can never know anything for certain. That sets a very high bar for certainty, which we operate every day of our lives. Are you certain the floor will support your weight? Not 100% certain, but close enough that you are willing to step forward before testing the floor first. Imagine having to test everything before proceeding with the desired action. So, perhaps we can lower the bar on certainty to match what works for us on an everyday basis, rather than adhering to an impractical, even impossible, degree of certainty that some insist on before declaring certainty.

Regarding the rebirth fantasy..every version of an afterlife is a story of wishful thinking unsupported by hard evidence. Our certainty about any kind of afterlife including rebirth, or reincarnation, is nil, yet the story seems to provide a measure of comfort for those who are unsettled, unnerved by the prospect of the death of the body meaning lights out for consciousness, totally and forever. I get it; death is ugly, death is nasty; it looks really bad and smells even worse. Death means deep sadness, unbearable grief, inconsolable misery for those emotionally attached to the newly deceased. What harm can there be in the invention of stories of an afterlife? That is for you to decide.

 

You do realize you are just talking to yourself right? Like literally that is all you are doing right now....no joke....answer those questions yourself. Because you literally are just telling YOURSELF your own thoughts.

[Someone here]

@Razard86 you just changed the subject I'm not talking to a "myself " because I'm not schizophrenic. There isn't a me and a a myself to talk to . I'm talking to YOU.

All I did was innocently asking for evidence of reincarnation. And you didn't provide one . You just came up with his idea that you gonna live the same situation from reversed positions .but I ask you HOW do you know that for certain?  Because I don't have the same degree of certainty. 

[Razard86]

3 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Razard86 you just changed the subject I'm not talking to a "myself " because I'm not schizophrenic. There isn't a me and a a myself to talk to . I'm talking to YOU.

All I did was innocently asking for evidence of reincarnation. And you didn't provide one . You just came up with his idea that you gonna live the same situation from reversed positions .but I ask you HOW do you know that for certain?  Because I don't have the same degree of certainty. 

Hahahah exactly and you don't realize it!!! Anytime you doubt and debate...you are believing I'm someone separate!! LOL!!! I am giving you the information you wanted!! That's why you are here!! And you are doubting what you asked!!! Lol!!! Its so funny!! You don't see what is going on...or you are pretending to not see!!! This is hilarious right now!!!

[Someone here]

1 minute ago, Razard86 said:

Anytime you doubt and debate...you are believing I'm someone separate!! LOL!

I'm not doubting for the sake of doubting.  Although nothing is stopping me from doing that . Im a truth seeker .one of the hardest issues I'm facing in my journey is the question of death. And what comes after death . So I listen  to anyone saying they know . You claimed to know. But was unable to provide evidence for your claim . Which actually supports my point. 

Reincarnation is a BELIEF.  Like it or not .

There is no reason to believe in it other than hopes and wishes. They make for very poor belief structures.

It makes no sense to waste thought on things that are nothing more than imaginations for which there is no evidence or way to test. Maybe there is invisible undetectable magic man in the sky ruling the universe through physics we don’t know or understand, or maybe its a giant inflatable purple cow, or may its a trillion dust mites with collective brain on an undiscovered chocolate planet or maybe its a hazelnut planet with…..get the point? 

I don't want speculation. I want fucking facts . Because I'm fucking serious about this work .

 

[Razard86]

1 minute ago, Someone here said:

 

I don't want speculation. I want fucking facts . Because I'm fucking serious about this work .

 

And that is why it is so funny!!! If you knew...you would be laughing too!! Enlightenment is an inside joke!!! You will only get it, when you get it! When you get it, you will bust out laughing because it is so funny!!! It is hilarious!! And what's more is I keep falling back asleep into the dream from time to time and then get a nudge back into the truth!!! Its so funny!! Even more so...is you actually are awake and asleep right now!!! 

You asked me to give you this message, that is why you are here responding to this....but right now you are not aware of this. Think of this as a breadcrumb. 

[Someone here]

@Razard86 We’re well into the realm of pure fantasy or science fiction or religious belief  here!

have a nice day ?

[Dazgwny]

2 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Whoever you have the greatest hatred/fear of, THAT is who you will live your life 

I like some of your insights and views. Intriguing many of them. But you have just made this up. This is no insight. It’s no awakening to anything. This is a fantasy you’ve thought up and chose to believe.

@Someone here is serious about this work, whether he’s a massive over thinker or not. He’s genuinely searching for truth. 

You’re getting carried away. Every thought you have is not an insight. You haven’t verified your claim, because it’s not verifiable, because it’s not true.

Theres always a ‘friend’ who seems to be verifying for you. On this occasion your friend is chatting shit. As are you.

It seems you’re beginning to fall into traps and believing every thought that enters your head. I’m sure you’ve had awakenings, but I’m sure you’re also having delusions. 
Like I say I like you man, there’s some good stuff to take from you. Just beware of slipping into fantasy land ??

[Razard86]

8 hours ago, Dazgwny said:

I like some of your insights and views. Intriguing many of them. But you have just made this up. This is no insight. It’s no awakening to anything. This is a fantasy you’ve thought up and chose to believe.

@Someone here is serious about this work, whether he’s a massive over thinker or not. He’s genuinely searching for truth. 

You’re getting carried away. Every thought you have is not an insight. You haven’t verified your claim, because it’s not verifiable, because it’s not true.

Theres always a ‘friend’ who seems to be verifying for you. On this occasion your friend is chatting shit. As are you.

It seems you’re beginning to fall into traps and believing every thought that enters your head. I’m sure you’ve had awakenings, but I’m sure you’re also having delusions. 
Like I say I like you man, there’s some good stuff to take from you. Just beware of slipping into fantasy land ??

Lol how could I prove something like this. Answer that? How can you disprove it? You can't disprove it, and I can't prove it. You have to verify it for yourself. Your own direct experience is king. If you understand how this game works...every awakening is a personal thing. It also is going to have different flavors as Leo likes to say.

The moment you think you have grasped it...its delusion. All words are delusion, all foundational teachings are delusion. You can't grasp it. Explain to me how you grasp the ungraspable? It doesn't make sense because it is not supposed to make sense. You just need to verify.

Intuition is intuition. You will always dream...forever...you don't even know if you haven't dreamed the same dream over again....how would you know? How would you verify? Exactly....so let's not play these games.

Majority of my insights are mine. Which means they are YOURS. The one I shared earlier about suffering came from my friend because I wouldn't take credit for someone else's awakening or insight. Again....he is also me so his insight is mine as well. Leo is you, so whatever Leo thinks up...is you thinking up.

All conflict...is delusion, you are just arguing with yourself. You are right now dreaming...and arguing with yourself about awakening and insights. Here is a big one for you... INSIGHTS!!! ARE IMAGINARY!!! Being Enlightened is a game in itself!! Its called the enlightenment game. Or did you forget we have Zen Devils, and Spiritual Egos? So once you realize that everything in the dream is imaginary...what is there to take serious? 

If you are serious about anything....you aren't getting it. Hell even serious is an act, how are you serious in a dream? Its too funny. I can play serious if yall want...lol but everything you see is just an act.

You are a thought an archetype in Universal Mind, taking your freaking roles too got damn serious. Oh no!!! Don't forget your lines!!! 

[Razard86]

They get the joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF5IHgM06i4&t=305s