A Friend of Mine Who Will Remain Anonymous had an interesting Insight

[Razard86]

Well first of all this no self thing everyone keeps getting stuck in...the no self is about the individual self, if you cannot get past that trap you can't be helped. It just means your bias is currently too strong to figure it out. My friend had a trip where he became the infinite singularity and realized he was all alone. He also realized there was no other in which he could REFLECT itself onto. He said in that moment he suffered. 

His insight is he thinks first there was suffering....and then came love. That Love exists because of suffering. Think about it...God is this amazing thing but God is all alone and it had to eventually accept this. How long would it take God to do this? God is infinite so God could search for an other...for a very long time....I'm talking long. So how long did it take God to accept that it was alone? 

You see we think that feelings are a human trait, like happiness, joy, sorrow, etc, lol they are not a human trait. You really think God is some other...its literally you. You will become that singularity....and be like wow.....so it was all me after all. You will still have feelings. So you will discover. You are still a self. So all this no self stuff you all are getting stuck. Go verify for yourself stop repeating all these things. Anyway...its an interesting proposition. Could the source of God's love for everything be motivated by God's realization that something... is so valuable....because ultimately its all nothing? 

Life is such a profound gift, because life is God having a reflection, another. Your life is God's gift to itself, this is why God loves you unconditionally. I'm also noticing we have a strong aversion to negativity on this forum....we really need to stop that. Every expression...is what God wants to express otherwise it wouldn't happen. Each expression is literally a message from God. Now I'm not saying explode into pure negativity here, let's try to have some balance but let's also try to understand that suffering is here for a reason.

I can truly say from the direct experience of my own personal life, I only have empathy because I experienced suffering. In fact I only don't hold grudges because I experienced suffering. I understand pain so much, I don't want others to experience it and if I have caused pain (which obviously I will from time to time) I will always regret it but also accept it also. Sometimes you do have to cause pain to help someone, but I always regret the pain part. 

Anyway your thoughts? Please don't jump on here and be like NO God is love....blah blah blah. We know God is love...but why? Ask yourself. God is your ultimate mirror. How did you come to realize what love is? Why would you think God any different? The only difference between you and what you know as God is just limits. If you become limitless....then you are God. So ask yourself....how did you learn love? If you can understand that....then you can see what I am driving at here.

Edited September 14, 2022 by Razard86

[Devin]

Suffering or love have never "existed"

[Razard86]

5 hours ago, Devin said:

Suffering or love have never "existed"

lol here comes the word play. 

[Thought Art]

God is an infinite mind.. 

acceptance vs non-acceptance is duality

God is Acceptance with a capital A. God IS Acceptence. 
 

God can only imagine non-acceptance as a finite being. Suffering and learning to love is the simulation spawned from an original and absolute being of Acceptance and Nirvana. The suffering is just part of the game of being human.

Shiva in its purest form has no issue with being alone. That’s when it’s in its highest and purest love. It doesn’t prefer being alone or being with another. For, shiva is I am all together. Shiva is, We are all together.

Edited September 14, 2022 by Thought Art

[Razard86]

Here it comes the robotic... replies. Even after I said contemplate. Oh well it is what it is.

[Thought Art]

@Razard86 uhh, maybe your the one who needs to contemplate ahaha 

also, consider studying/ contemplating duality, God and Non-dual Shaiva Tantra… and trip.

[Thought Art]

@Razard86 Idk, how did God, the thing that created itself, and You… learn how to love. Well, God is infinite intelligence by its very nature and when you are infinitely intelligent all there is to do it to love. 
 

God is a causal and before time. Your imposing your finite experience in something that isn’t human, nor is it finite.
 

Anyway, your not gonna like my answers because you want God to be a finite being like you. 

Edited September 14, 2022 by Thought Art

[Devin]

@Razard86 I don't think God thinks or accepts things

When they say no self they mean no separation, a singularity. Self means separate

I don't know why God is love, I think THAT is "word play". I think they say because everything is god

I agree it's all parroting, that's all language could ever be, it's by definition parroting

Edited September 15, 2022 by Devin

[Thought Art]

@Devin You think it’s Parroting

But I can tell by your post you don’t really know much about this

Edited September 15, 2022 by Thought Art

[Devin]

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

@Devin You think it’s Parroting

But I can tell by your post you don’t really know much about this

About "god"; you're right. I actually don't know anything about anything

But if you speak in terms of "logic" and "reasoning" it's all just based in the parroting of the root "logic" and "reasoning", otherwise you couldn't verbally communicate it

Edited September 15, 2022 by Devin

[Thought Art]

@Devin Maybe I’m just speaking from previous direct experience and mystical insight and, using language used to describe it based on what I’ve learned through intellectual process. To extent that that is parroting

[Devin]

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

@Devin Maybe I’m just speaking from previous direct experience and mystical insight and, using language used to describe it based on what I’ve learned through intellectual process. To extent that that is parroting

Right I only mean the language is parroting, not that you're mindless