Lsd Trip confusion

[Jannes]

I did around 100ug of lsd yesterday. I wanted to contemplate on what death and love is. What I got was 10 hours of confusion and "wooziness“. I couldn’t think a clear thought at all. I don’t know what caused it. I did lsd two days prior to that and maybe I haven’t integrated everything. 

[Breakingthewall]

I ve small experience with lsd , but more with mushrooms. What happens to me is that if I take a low dose, you are still in the realm of the mind but with a strange psychedelic effect, which leads to crazy rumination and analysis. it is better a sufficient dose that gets you out of there, that does not give you the possibility of thinking in confusion

[Carl-Richard]

10 hours ago, Jannes said:

I couldn’t think a clear thought at all.

But what did you feel?

[Leo Gura]

13 hours ago, Jannes said:

I did lsd two days prior to that

That's likely the problem.

LSD requires more recovery time since it has tolerance.

Sometimes LSD trips just go sideways for apparently no good reason. Depends on your mood and so forth.

Edited September 13, 2022 by Leo Gura

[StarStruck]

Shine the light of your consciousness on the topic of your contemplation. When you are trying to force understanding it doesn't work most of the time.

 

[Jannes]

9 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

But what did you feel?

Hard to describe. Maybe like I got intoxicated, pushed down, my brain cells are etching away. Something like that. 

 

6 hours ago, StarStruck said:

Shine the light of your consciousness on the topic of your contemplation. When you are trying to force understanding it doesn't work most of the time. 

 That wasn’t really possible anymore. My focus was gone too much. 

10 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

I ve small experience with lsd , but more with mushrooms. What happens to me is that if I take a low dose, you are still in the realm of the mind but with a strange psychedelic effect, which leads to crazy rumination and analysis. it is better a sufficient dose that gets you out of there, that does not give you the possibility of thinking in confusion

 I took 225ug actually but it’s worth 100ug because I did it two days prior. That isn’t a super small dose for me.

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

That's likely the problem.

LSD requires more recovery time since it has tolerance.

Sometimes LSD trips just go sideways for apparently no good reason. Depends on your mood and so forth.

 Ooh I wasn’t aware of that. I just thought you have to take a higher dose to compensate for the reduced effectiveness but not that it changes your trip experience if you do it in short time intervals. 

[Leo Gura]

I have found that if you don't integrate trips well, and trip again too soon, you increase the odds of a bad trip. Like eating too much food without chewing.

The best way is to trip deep, then rest.

Edited September 13, 2022 by Leo Gura

[Jannes]

I had mixed feelings before that trip. I had like a 10 second awakening the last trip and that shocked me to the core but that was it. But it was probably more then all of the previous trips. So I had to process that probably. But also I kinda felt ready and a part of me really wanted to rush it. Should have been more sensitive to my inner voice. 

[StarStruck]

I was thinking about popping 500ug lsd but I'm having second thoughts right now lol.. It will fuck me up guaranteed because I haven't taken anything for 2 months right now

[Jannes]

1 hour ago, StarStruck said:

I was thinking about popping 500ug lsd but I'm having second thoughts right now lol.. It will fuck me up guaranteed because I haven't taken anything for 2 months right now

I think that is even better if you want to take a big dose. You are super recovered. Have you ever taken a dose that is close to something like this? 500ug sounds like so much but there are many people who take crazy high doses of lsd but I will probably never be one of them. 
Maybe you could do the trip but have mdma at hand if it turns into a bad trip ? Although I am not sure if that works guaranteed. 

[StarStruck]

@Jannes my highest dose was 250 ug lsd. 

I do have mdma. 

[Jannes]

10 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

@Jannes my highest dose was 250 ug lsd. 

I do have mdma. 

That would be one hell of a jump.

Edited September 13, 2022 by Jannes

[Sincerity]

7 hours ago, StarStruck said:

I was thinking about popping 500ug lsd but I'm having second thoughts right now lol.. It will fuck me up guaranteed because I haven't taken anything for 2 months right now

3 hours ago, StarStruck said:

my highest dose was 250 ug lsd. 

Don't

Be safe!

[Hello from Russia]

@StarStruck Dude, don't do it like this, it's too much of a progression, you might heavily regret it

[StarStruck]

6 hours ago, Hello from Russia said:

@StarStruck Dude, don't do it like this, it's too much of a progression, you might heavily regret it

I'm not happy with my progression. Desperate times require what?

[Jannes]

@StarStruck For how long have you been stuck ?

[StarStruck]

1 hour ago, Jannes said:

@StarStruck For how long have you been stuck ?

1-2 years: demons of my past are hunting me. I was 2 weeks in a trauma centrum and that was some help but little.

[Jannes]

53 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

1-2 years: demons of my past are hunting me. I was 2 weeks in a trauma centrum and that was some help but little.

Then taking a hero dose is a pretty dumb idea imo especially with lsd because it lasts so long. 

How many trips have you done in general?
Have you worked with smaller doses to specifically target your mental issues?

Also idk if mdma can help you with every bad trip. I just heard it could help but I never tried it and I dont want to be responisble if you end up with a bad trip. 
I get your frustration. I mean I am in a similar situation to yours but imagine you get a traumatizing bad trip and never do psychedelics again. This process cant be rushed.

[StarStruck]

On 14-9-2022 at 9:51 PM, Jannes said:

Then taking a hero dose is a pretty dumb idea imo especially with lsd because it lasts so long. 

How many trips have you done in general?
Have you worked with smaller doses to specifically target your mental issues?

Also idk if mdma can help you with every bad trip. I just heard it could help but I never tried it and I dont want to be responisble if you end up with a bad trip. 
I get your frustration. I mean I am in a similar situation to yours but imagine you get a traumatizing bad trip and never do psychedelics again. This process cant be rushed.

This year I only took psychedelics a few times.. Last year also. Major issue with psychedelics is that I have a hard time stopping with thinking during the trip.

I've MDMA and the first time was amazing. I felt like I discovered the fountain of youth (I was also doing sexual transmutation during that time), but the second and third time was meh. I read that this is common.

Microdosing is something I want to try again in conjuction with therapy.

[kylan11]

I had an experience like that, 1 year ago almost to the day actually. Same dosage. I was also a heavy cannabis smoker at that time, and I think that had something to do with it.

You go into the experience with a certain expectation and subconsciously try to force the trip towards a certain direction. That NEVER works. I felt clouded, unable to think clearly or even describe what was happening. No visuals. Just very fuzzy and insecure about everything. Not a good experience but nowhere near a bad, scary trip. Just a general sense of discomfort. Very annoying.

I remember the moment I snapped out of it. I was coming down (about 4-5 am in the morning, I took the tab at 10pm the day before) and I completely gave up on my expectations for the trip and I was like, okay, since this all went to shit anyway I'll just watch a TV show or something till I can finally get some sleep and wake up sober.

Just when I stopped being in my head and just started watching reality (which in this case was How I Met Your Mother on my phone screen) I IMMEDIATELY started experiencing heavy and hilarious visual effects. By inquiring into the nature of those hallucinations I went into a full blown ego death/nondual awakening. It was actually one of the deepest experiences of my life. (something like, HOLY SHIT! ALL I HAD TO DO WAS WATCH!) And I was in that sweet spot where I was sober enough to record my thoughts by writing notes on my phone which I still enjoy reading from time to time.

So the takeaway is: when in that state of confusion, just give up trying to understand intellectually. Surrender to whatever is happening and maybe focus on an activity that you find engaging. Good music or a good TV show to bring you back into the present.

Edited December 2, 2022 by kylan11