Jordan Peterson's opinion on the Queen's passing

[Razard86]

So ummm I am interested in your reaction to Jordan Peterson's opinion on the Queen passing. For me personally...this is totally off-brand from what Jordan Peterson usually says. In fact...it is actually confusing to me.....I am totally and completely confused. Thoughts? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5os9bT9zuo&ab_channel=JordanBPeterson

[Tyler Robinson]

He is losing brain cells at an exponential rate, something he needs to really worry about. 

[Razard86]

Just now, Tyler Robinson said:

He is losing brain cells at an exponential rate, something he needs to really worry about. 

Well he is leading a lot of people with him if that is the case. He dropped the video 2 days ago and it already got 2 million views. He made his channel not that long ago and it already got 5 million subscribers. I really don't get it. He is all about functionality and the greater good when he talks social construction.....how in the world is the constitutional monarchy an example of that?

He talks about how capitalisms is a big upgrade from the monarchy in times past...then says he is a big fan of it now? He talks about people being judged by competency and society being constructed by competency....how is being born into a monarchy an example of competency? Someone needs to add this to Leo's hypocrisy list. 

At the end of the day we all contradict ourselves every now and then that's fine. But this? Its like Trump endorsing Democrats lol. 

[Tyler Robinson]

1 minute ago, Razard86 said:

Well he is leading a lot of people with him if that is the case. He dropped the video 2 days ago and it already got 2 million views. He made his channel not that long ago and it already got 5 million subscribers. I really don't get it. He is all about functionality and the greater good when he talks social construction.....how in the world is the constitutional monarchy an example of that?

He talks about how capitalisms is a big upgrade from the monarchy in times past...then says he is a big fan of it now? He talks about people being judged by competency and society being constructed by competency....how is being born into a monarchy an example of competency? Someone needs to add this to Leo's hypocrisy list. 

At the end of the day we all contradict ourselves every now and then that's fine. But this? Its like Trump endorsing Democrats lol. 

Views are misleading. Famous people will always a high view count. Same goes for Trump or any diot in the world who opens his mouth on every political topic and finds his way on Joe Rogan. Nothing different from Milo or Ben Shapiro or Nick Fuentes for that matter. 

The point to remember that meanwhile he has a large following of people, not everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Intelligence is found in such limited amounts across the population, yet you'll see plenty of sane people in this world who forthrightly don't agree with this man, no matter how much clout chasing he does. 

 

[Razard86]

4 hours ago, Tyler Robinson said:

Views are misleading. Famous people will always a high view count. Same goes for Trump or any diot in the world who opens his mouth on every political topic and finds his way on Joe Rogan. Nothing different from Milo or Ben Shapiro or Nick Fuentes for that matter. 

The point to remember that meanwhile he has a large following of people, not everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. Intelligence is found in such limited amounts across the population, yet you'll see plenty of sane people in this world who forthrightly don't agree with this man, no matter how much clout chasing he does. 

 

I hope that is the case.

[Danioover9000]

@Razard86

4 hours ago, Razard86 said:

So ummm I am interested in your reaction to Jordan Peterson's opinion on the Queen passing. For me personally...this is totally off-brand from what Jordan Peterson usually says. In fact...it is actually confusing to me.....I am totally and completely confused. Thoughts? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5os9bT9zuo&ab_channel=JordanBPeterson

   Nothing really to strange about his take. It's the traditionalist/conservative side of JP that's coming out a bit here. No big deal, people's opinions are, at the end of the day, irrelevant, just as much as the opinions of socialists, progressives, lib-dems' takes on the passing of the Queen, irrelevant.

   This doesn't nullify the psychological values he provides in his field though, it's still that JP has questionable political takes. 

[Bobby_2021]

@Razard86  Peterson delivered a level headed take. He didn't endorse monarchy. He even said it will eventually disintegrate because it's hard to manage and you need someone impressive for it.

Having a monarch can also act as a check to the power of the government and how it generates more income than he spends.

He arranged everything he said into a beautiful lecture. 

[Nilsi]

I think this is pretty much in character for him. He's just obsessed with his archetypes.

[UpperMaster]

11 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

I think this is pretty much in character for him. He's just obsessed with his archetypes.

and lobsters

[Danioover9000]

@Bobby_2021

19 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

@Razard86  Peterson delivered a level headed take. He didn't endorse monarchy. He even said it will eventually disintegrate because it's hard to manage and you need someone impressive for it.

Having a monarch can also act as a check to the power of the government and how it generates more income than he spends.

He arranged everything he said into a beautiful lecture. 

   Yes.

[EternalForest]

How is it off brand?

[Razard86]

20 minutes ago, EternalForest said:

How is it off brand?

Sit with that question for a minute....really sit with it.....you might notice something.

[Carl-Richard]

Feels like when you have 5 minutes to prepare a presentation and you quickly search up some bullshit to say.

[EternalForest]

@Razard86 You made the claim it was off brand, then didn't elaborate. I'm just curious why you thought it was first. I had my own thoughts I was going to share afterwards.

[King Merk]

Yea it didn’t feel off brand to me at all. I found it interesting that he talked more about Trump than the queen considering the question but it’s obvious he’s continuing to lean into his conservative values.

Typical JP. I enjoyed the talk. 

[ValiantSalvatore]

I think it's okay if you disconsider the context of what he has done, and he did not really talk much about trump. I also think JP is way better than Maga Trump. I often think he does not find the right people to express his views and these talks are so endless, the video almost says nothing if nobody followed the context fully. It would be better if he speaks to someone like Schmachtenberger or so, nobody understands JP I think.

If I watch the video without audio and I imagine what he is saying it's quiet funny he should speak with this stuff with a serious democrat in a sense, I guess he is just angry that he seems to be unable to reconcile something in his life. I do not like him personally very much, yet I do have sympathy for him. 

Edited September 14, 2022 by ValiantSalvatore

[Carl-Richard]

@lxlichael tl;dr

[Razard86]

On 9/12/2022 at 3:48 PM, EternalForest said:

@Razard86 You made the claim it was off brand, then didn't elaborate. I'm just curious why you thought it was first. I had my own thoughts I was going to share afterwards.

I'll explain when I have more time. I might need to dig up some of his older content to present it. 

[Razard86]

55 minutes ago, lxlichael said:

 

He needs to change, and I’ll help him get there

This is one of the biggest traps. Its well-meaning....but it means you are a very controlling person (We all can be that way sometimes) and while you are doing it out of love because you believe he is failing to live up to whatever standards you think he should...realize your standards...are not his standards. You can reason with him, and suggest perspectives but anytime you try to force someone to your side....they will resist.

I understand this trap because I am very susceptible to it from time to time. Everything is how it should be, we can add or speak out against things, but we shouldn't believe someone needs to change, the only thing that needs to change is our perspective. Otherwise...you will be at war with others. All hate is spread with good intentions from the perspective of the one that hates.

[Loba]

I feel bad for him.  I get the feeling that as this guy ages, if he doesn't get with the program that he's just going to get worse.  With people like this, even though they are destructive in their thought process, it's hard not to have some level of sympathy for someone who is so tortured and disingenuous.  What I don't understand is how people like this amass a large following, and garner attention for themselves when it is so glaringly obvious that there is something severely and maliciously wrong.  You can feel the anger and aggression just oozing off of him in his diatribes.  I guess I feel for him because I have anger problems, too, and I work on it and have gotten better - but when you see it so repressed like this, it's like a shaken pop bottle almost.  Like he's gunna blow his lid one day and go off the deep end and it will be super public.  Hope he can change his ways, seems like that day is coming at any moment.

@Razard86  I think he should change, but it has to be through coming to terms with his own mirror through a situation that he has caused for himself where it can't be any other way for him.  It would hurt, but would be a blessing for someone like this.

Edited September 15, 2022 by Loba