Another Destiny vs Mr. Girl, very heated and confusion.

[Tyler Robinson]

Just now, Carl-Richard said:

Definitions asign meaning.

 

Their main duty is a precise language and clear communication.

As we are an intelligent species we will be able to consciously tap our emotions to serve ourselves as we become more intelligent as a species more easily . The reason for this is because intelligence is defined as the ability to adapt  and not just defined as  the ability to know more and learn faster or more advanced information, therefore humans will evolve to adapt to (potentially) control and use emotions more effectively provided we become more intelligent as we evolve as a species and require emotions to survive as a species, and even if we don't require emotions to survive as a species in the future but we still have them anyway humans will have adapted to use them more efficiently as they become more intelligent, as adaptation goes hand in hand with intelligence.

 

[zurew]

16 minutes ago, Tortured Soul said:

If we have different own definitions for the same term we are going to fuck up the conversation.

 

Yes, but we can settle this problem by asking for definitions, that way we can clearly see how the other person is using that definition, so we will understand their thought process better, but if we are quickly jumping on a dictionary, then both of us will probably need to rethink our thoughtprocess, because the word that is used has a totally or slightly different meaning now.

None of your arguments are suggesting or strengthening the point, that we should use a dictionary to settle disagreements or to elevate our ability to understand the other person. - So it seems to me, that you agree with me at least on that point.

Edited September 9, 2022 by zurew

[zurew]

12 minutes ago, Tortured Soul said:

What happens then is that in public conversation everyone has their own definition and the listeners have their own, lots of misunderstading will happen. If everyone already checked the definition then everyone would speak about the same thing and on the same level.

Yeah this is a good point, but we still don't need to use a dictionary definition. We can just give our own clear definition, that way people will know and understand why we use the way we use it, and what we mean by it.

Again, one of the biggest problem with the dicitionary use, is that the person who use it, need to change his/her way of thinking and talking about a particular subject, because that meaning now will slightly or totally differ from his/her original use of it.

Edited September 9, 2022 by zurew

[Kksd74628]

@zurew

Don't you understand that everyone can't possible have their own definitions or it'd be like we all have different words. When we are talking with specific words we expect that we're also pointing towards the same general idea. You're too locked in thinking about dictionary definition when in case what I'm talking about is just sharing definition for the sake of better communication. Because we already agree that we need to know the definitions that the other one uses, would it be easier just to have the same ones in the beginning which means agreeing on basic definitions.

[zurew]

4 minutes ago, Kksd74628 said:

Don't you understand that everyone can't possible have their own definitions or it'd be like we all have different words.

Its not that everyone has totally differing definitions. some people have less and some people have more differing definitions, but again we can quckly and easily settle that problem with explaining our own definitions.

5 minutes ago, Kksd74628 said:

You're too locked in thinking about dictionary definition when in case what I'm talking about is just sharing definition for the sake of better communication.

I thought, that you were suggesting here that we must use dictionaries when we communicate, or when we have a disagreement. I still don't agree with that , because in most of that cases disagreements and misunderstandings can be settled with other tools.

6 minutes ago, Kksd74628 said:

Because we already agree that we need to know the definitions that the other one uses, would it be easier just to have the same ones in the beginning which means agreeing on basic definitions.

We can agree on basic definitions without reaching for a dictionary.

[zurew]

@Kksd74628 Give us your argument(s), where you demonstrate, that dictionary use is better than any other tool. Whatever argument(s) you will give, dictionary use will be a minority compared to the other tools.

[Carl-Richard]

Why is this the conversation? ?

[Scholar]

On 8.9.2022 at 9:59 PM, Carl-Richard said:

I don't understand why you don't want to clarify or simplify even once. When I write something, I want people to understand me first and foremost, and I feel it's on me if something is unclear.

I also think that your first comment was rather strange, because it didn't mention any of the arguments in the discussion, but instead it was just a general character profile of mainly Mr.Girl.

My first comment wasn't addressing you specifically, that's why I put a space between my response to you and the rest of the post.

And I am too lazy to clarify, because I don't think it will work and this topic is to trivial to argue about it like this.

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Scholar said:

And I am too lazy to clarify, because I don't think it will work and this topic is to trivial to argue about it like this.

That's really weird.

[Carl-Richard]

7 minutes ago, Scholar said:

My first comment wasn't addressing you specifically, that's why I put a space between my response to you and the rest of the post.

You were addressing the video, without addressing the arguments in the video.

Edited September 11, 2022 by Carl-Richard

[Scholar]

39 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

You were addressing the video, without addressing the arguments in the video.

I was giving you my perspective.

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Scholar said:

I was giving you my perspective.

Yep.

[Danioover9000]

@zurew

On 9/9/2022 at 10:12 AM, zurew said:

@Kksd74628 Give us your argument(s), where you demonstrate, that dictionary use is better than any other tool. Whatever argument(s) you will give, dictionary use will be a minority compared to the other tools.

   Easy argument to make. I use dictionaries, thesauruses and Rhyming dictionaries to create my rap songs, when I exhaust most of my native language use in a free style. So, dictionaries, physical and internet, are useful because I sometimes run out of words to use in my song.

   Another example, a person is not native English speaker, therefore the English dictionary is useful as a learning tool and a way to check for spelling errors. Almost every successful civilization has some form of cataloging system they created, other than a dictionary, and the utility is hard to deny.

[zurew]

@Danioover9000 Those are good examples, however the context of the question was around , when one have a disagreement or when we misunderstand each other.